KELLY SHAW, calling you an idiot is a simple fact, and not "name-calling." Your obsessive "criticism" is illegitimate and false. I've explained this endlessly to you here, but oh no, you won't listen. And now you're blocking me here in the most cowardly way AFTER making your imbecilic comments. How bold of you. I'll just have to repost my comments to you on the main area. NO, you're wrong. We aren't going to pay anyone to do anything for us. You have seen the explanation of what Jamie meant, and the fact that you still don't acknowledge the actual facts and the truth of the matter shows that you are simply full of crap, you are in denial, or you're just trying to spread a lie for propaganda. Go ahead, keep lying, Shaw.
You said, which is stupid and false:
"Hey weak sauce. No apologies if the strait up hard core truth hurts your feelers. I tell it like it is and since you went off on the band wagon of tossing childish names around, I will call it how I see it. You are simply a mooch. you mooch off of the Patterson/Gimlin success, you use that to mooch donations from the Bigfoot community and now you admit your game plan is to pay someone else to do your project for you. Because its hard and takes too long. Clearly a master minded mooch in progress..."
Steven Streufert 3:32 PM
Can you actually READ, Kelly Shaw? Did you actually see what the facts are, all above? And, in regard to "mooching"... I've not touched a single penny of the funding money. Jamie handles all of that, and all of it, plus a lot of his own money (not to mention time, gas, and everything else we pay for ourselves) goes into trail cameras and supplies for them. What point do you have that is actually legitimate? NOT A SINGLE ONE. Do you know what a hypothetical idea is? It is something considered as a possibility only. Listen to the damn interview at 40 minutes or so and you can clearly see that Jamie said that only as a possibility two years or more in the future, and also only if we were to get some kind of large grant. Like I said, all the other functions we do in the Project would continue regardless, so you are just plain wrong. You should really just shut your trap, as every time you speak everyone can see what a fool you are.
Kelly Shaw 3:33 PM
You are back pedaling and lying because I called you out on your future plans with the P/G site. No need for me to take in your Bullshit captain dipshit
Steven Streufert, 4:00 PM
NO I AM NOT. THAT WAS ONLY SPECULATIVE AND CONTINGENT THINKING ON JAMIE'S PART. WE AREN'T ACTUALLY DOING THAT, AND DON'T HAVE ANY SOLID PLAN TO DO THAT. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND, KNUCKLEHEAD?
Kelly ShawYesterday 4:18 PM
1:36 PM
Duesch bag. Someone who mooches off of the 47 year old Patterson Gimlin success by using it to mooch dontations from the bigfoot community. Yet wants someone else to do the work so he can enjoy the lazy spot light of his ill claimed glory. Face it Steven you are a mooch. Simply a mooch. Look that up in your dictionary smart guy. You leach upon the hard work of Patterson Gimlin success. Truely a low life Steven. Your a mooch.
Steven Streufert5:41 PM
Shaw, why do you persist? You're just making yourself look like an obsessed maniac. There's hardly any point in talking with you, as you don't even listen to the facts. "Mooch"? How so? I've never touched a penny of that money. Not a freaking cent. Jamie had the idea for a public research project that involves anyone who would like to participate. The cameras are owned by the people funding them if they want them back at any time. Donations for batteries and such are freely given by those enthusiastic about the idea and eager to see the results. We've spent far more time in Bluff Creek than Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin ever did. For me, it's just a part of local history, and I've been studying it since 1999. What's your problem now? That we've actually done good and interesting things in studying the history of the area, and now are documenting the wildlife there? What's wrong with that, buddy? Look at yourself... you have no case at all. You're just running at the mouth. How is it any different that you read some sighting report on BFRO or wherever, and then go there and "mooch off their success" in making videos for YouTube pennies? It's not different. The big difference is that for you it is all about you, about your ego, and your need to prove yourself. We are just doing objective research, and it is about finding the facts, whatever they are. It certainly isn't for personal gain in any way, nor is it about trying to prove how awesome we are. You should consider that you're just plain wrong. Do a fact check. Jamie speculating about the future is not actually a fact, but just an idea. It's his idea, like the idea to fund the project publicly. It's funny you try to call me on "mooching" when I have absolutely nothing to do with that aspect of the Project. I do the history and help with the field studies. Maybe you should take up your problems with Jamie. He tells me you never donated anything to the Project, anyway, so why do you pretend that you've somehow been ripped off? All of the expenditures are fully declared on each funding drive the Project does, and people know exactly what they are giving to buy. Cameras, batteries, bear boxes. All the rest comes from us, the gas, the time, the labor, the many trips we do out there all during the part of the year that the area is open to access. Telling a bunch of falsehoods only makes you look petty, and repeating the same false understandings of what we're doing only demonstrates your ignorance. Clearly, you are doing this as propaganda, political bullshit trying to influence the so-called "Bigfoot Community," but you are failing. Everyone now can see that you are a jealous and little man who only yells more loudly and blows out hot air when he is wrong. Do yourself a favor. Give it a rest, and get on with your own efforts.
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don gilchrist Shared on Google+ ·
4 weeks ago
Wait a minute? What do you mean you want to get to the point where you can pay a grad student to do your Bigfooting? To service game cameras? 1st of all that is a poor use of donations and 2nd. You cant call your self a researcher if you have delusions of grandure and are going to pay someone to Bigfoot for you. What a joke. Lets start a Bigfoot organization, call our selves experts and stay at home while someone does our Bigfooting for us. Couldn't contain myself on that statement guys. I am sure that isn't your end goal. Keep on squatching fellas.
Rocky Mountain Sasquatch Organization 3 weeks ago
+don gilchrist No shit
Steven Streufert 1 day ago
+don gilchrist BASED ON MISCONCEPTIONS AND LIES FROM KELLY SHAW, DON. WE AREN"T PAYING ANYBODY WITH THE FUNDING DONATIONS. You and your friend Kelly should really STFU, or at least get the facts straight. KELLY SHAW, if you weren't so dense I wouldn't have to write any of this. You're only damaging your own reputation by continuing your weeks-long screed against BLUFF CREEK PROJECT. Stop acting like you gave money to the project, because you DIDN'T. Get this through your thick skull, you troglodyte: No funds given to the Project have been spent on anything but for trail cameras and batteries, data cards, bear boxes, screws and locks. Do you know what a hypothetical statement is? Good. Now look, Jamie Wayne was speaking about the theoretical FUTURE of the Project. One idea we've had is to expand the operation beyond what we're currently doing. Part of that would be connecting with the University. Part of that, partly or fully covered by academic grants (and possibly partly by the Project) might be to add team members in the form of actual Wildlife Biologists. This would be supplemental to what we currently do. We do service the cameras some four times a year (and it takes much more than five hours), but that is not all we do. All of us are constantly outdoors, in the woods, and sometimes in Bluff Creek. I'm sorry that you're so insecure that you feel compelled to make all of these supposed problems out of sheer NOTHING, just because you feel like we have outdone you somehow. Just go do your own thing, Shaw. We really don't care. If you find Bigfoot, good for you. We'll just keep doing what we do, no matter if you cry and whine or not. Consider this: every time you open your mouth in these dumb attacks, we just win all the more. If you want to impress people, do so something impressive in your own work, and leave others to theirs when there is no valid basis for criticism whatsoever to be raised.
Rocky Mountain Sasquatch Organization 22 minutes ago
+Steven Streufert Hey weak sauce. No apologies if the strait up hard core truth hurts your feelers. I tell it like it is and since you went off on the band wagon of tossing childish names around, I will call it how I see it. You are simply a mooch. you mooch off of the Patterson/Gimlin success, you use that to mooch donations from the Bigfoot community and now you admit your game plan is to pay someone else to do your project for you. Because its hard and takes too long. Clearly a master minded mooch in progress. To each their own. If someone wants to hand over their hard earned cash to someone trying to ride the coat tails of two hard working men. And has admitted its too hard and they need to pay someone else to get some kind of glory for them. I see through your corruption Steven.
Steven Streufert 1 second ago
+Rocky Mountain Sasquatch Organization You are so full of shite it is incomprehensible. One dense MF.
Crypto2814 3 weeks ago
Hahaha!! Kelly Shaw threatening to kick people and in the nuts and smash people in the nose. Sure, sure, why didn't you try that on Steven when you allegedly visited Bigfoot Books. Too busy hiding behind the bookshelves, trying get your retard stutter under control, and rub your 2 remaining neurons together to work up the nerve to say something only you would feel is witty? What a keyboard warrior click whore. Go make up some more Bigfoot themed names for already named locations to use in your garbage videos
screamdoctor 4 days ago
5 years, 50 cameras, 500 gallons of gas, 5000 man hours, and they got no pictures of Bigfoot to show for it. They failed to seek the advice of game camera experts on the high frequency sounds that game cameras emit, and the light that game cameras emit. They failed to refer to the Australian study the showed why game cameras don't work for their Yowie. And they failed to factor in the paranormal existence of the Bigfoot. Perhaps the projects title should be revised based on the above, to The Giant Bluff Creek Bigfoot Fail Camera Project. Thank you very much.
Steven Streufert 23 hours ago
+screamdoctor We are not trying to PROVE Bigfoot exists. We are TESTING THE HYPOTHESIS. If you do not understand this distinction you have absolutely no idea of what real science and real wildlife surveying is. There are no high frequency sounds, just ask our tech guy Jamie. These cameras DO NOT emit light until they are triggered. There is no Yowie, and why should we listen to some oddball Australian cryptozoologists? You make no sense at all. All of your points are FALSE. We consider it a success to observe reality, and we're happy with all the results we get with the real wildlife out there; and if Bigfoot actually exists and lives there, we'd be happy to see one appear before our cameras. So far, though, our observations make a good case for the non-existence of Bigfoot, or at least for its absence from Bluff Creek, its most famous historical habitat.
MrKeltic1 3 weeks ago (edited)
What happened to Kelly Shaw and his criticism/comment about the Bluff Creek Project? Did he go back to "Bullsh_t Highway", ""Crock O' Sh_t Canyon" or where ever it is that he does his fantasy role-playing? It looks like he ran with his tail between his legs when the criticism was turned back on him. LOL He seems to measure his "research" achievements by the number of hits he gets on his amateurish, self-promoting videos and/or the number of gullible groupies he has. He has the worst case of confirmation bias of any of the self-proclaimed "bigfoot researchers" out there. Everything is bigfoot to the guy. If he saw a dog take a dump in a Walmart parking lot, he would make a video of the results, post it on YouTube and claim that it was bigfoot scat from the make-believe "Bigfoot Highway". His "Yellowstone tourists with ski poles being bigfoot" fiasco really showed that he lacks the objectivity, common sense and logical thinking to ever be a "researcher". He's going to have to settle for just being the ill-tempered laughing stock of bigfootery.
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