Giant Anthropoid Feeding Frenzy and Question of Genetic Origin of Creature Cause Hysterical Speculations.
It wasn't Dick Cheney and George Bush and the PNAC plan. It wasn't al-Qaeda and Osama. It wasn't intentionally demolished nor destroyed by airplanes and fire. What the government and all the news channels didn't show you that day in September, 2001, was the REAL truth. Cookie Monster destroyed the World Trade Center Twin Towers!
Evidence now shows that the fire-retardant insulation in the buildings, along with thermite demolition explosive materials, combined to create an aroma uncannily similar to that of chocolate chip cookies. This attracted the giant blue monster, and man was he ever hungry! No malign intent on the part of the creature has yet been discovered. It would seem he just could not resist the tasty flavor. "Om Nom nom nom! AWWWWM-num-num-num-num!"
We have always wondered, just WHAT is Cookie Monster, the cookie-addicted hominoid creature from the Sesame Street TV show? We now know, thanks to a Sesame Street Magazine cover of October 1976 (recently unearthed by our friend Brian), that Cookie is actually related to King Kong. And we ALL know what Creature is the REAL source for the King Kong legends and movies. Right? That's right! Could Cookie Monster be an icy-blue Yeti, or an aberrant Bigfoot/Sasquatch, just with a sugar-mutated blue coat of fur? We believe so. That this issue of the magazine came out in the ninth anniversary month of the Patterson-Gimlin Film of Bigfoot in Bluff Creek only serves as a secret clue.
The remake version of the KING KONG movie, from 1976, prominently features not only the Twin Towers with a Giant Ape, but also an incredibly inspiring Jessica Lange in her Golden Globe-winning first major film appearance. We saw it in the theaters when we were just a pre-teen kid, and it was truly scary, and... fascinating.
Visit the Muppet WIKI, and their Cookie Monster page HERE.
As Cliff Barackman, noted Bigfoot researcher, recently put it on his fine NORTH AMERICAN BIGFOOT BLOG:
"I've been interested in sasquatches for a long time. When I was very young, it was clear to me that King Kong and even Curious George were depictions of bigfoots. After all, they stood and walked on two legs. Perhaps they really weren't bigfoots, but to my young mind there was no difference. I... ponder the similarities between the Curious George story and a possible scenario of the first live capture of a juvenile bigfoot. Unlike Curious George, I do not think that a juvenile bigfoot would take comfort in its zoo surroundings. How long could a sasquatch be kept in a traditional zoo setting? Not long, I imagine... a rampaging sasquatch that escaped from captivity would be a formidable thing to reckon with."
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Another NEWS FLASH!
M.K. DAVIS and Don Monroe's 34-minute video interview with AL HODGSON has finally surfaced. Apparently they felt pressured to at last release it after our own interview with Al Hodgson was transcribed and published HERE (in three parts, two and a quarter hours, unedited and complete--click link to get started). This interview done by MK has been used in tiny out of context quotes to fuel all manner of false presuppositions on forums like the GCBRO and other internet dens of iniquity. One may notice in viewing it that not once does Al speak of a "Massacre" of Bigfoot in Bluff Creek. Go figure. Still, it is Al, so it is interesting. VIEW THE STREAMING VIDEO MK DAVIS-AL HODGSON INTERVIEW HERE. You'll notice that the paranoid and delusional Bigfoot conspiracy theorists will make hay out of just about anything. Also, they spelled Al's last name wrongly. Go figure, eh?
"They don't want you knowin' the truth. That's the truth!" -- Don Monroe, BF researcher
OK, Don Don.
NOTE: If any of you know of a streaming hosting site for audio the would post our mp3 audio file of the Al Hodgson interview, please do let us know. We'd like to get the full recording out there for all researchers concerned to hear.
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We'd like to briefly comment on the concept of "Bigfoot People," as recently brought up by Linda Martin on her BIGFOOT SIGHTINGS web site blog in her comments on an upcoming MonsterQuest episode featuring the "Sierra Sasquatch." View that entry HERE. Our humbly submitted comments:
People, “human beings,” are animals, creatures and beasts, so what is the problem? Humans are apes, or more properly, in the same family of animals. We all eat, defecate and procreate. It’s just that some of us do it in houses, and some do it in the woods. To say “Bigfoot People” is misleading–it implies that the Creatures are human like us, which they decidely are not, based on the vast majority of sightings. “People” think they are special, but we are just another form of animal. All animals have their own special abilities and evolved survival talents, as do we; but what is important is noticing all the differences. That is how we tell one thing from another. Otherwise they would just get all blended together in our minds. I think the word we should be avoiding is “monster.” Then again, what do you expect on a show called MonsterQuest? I've taken lately to using "Creature," but capitalized to leave in Mystery and respect. I agree, "beast" implies "monster," which is the word we really need to get away from. Hence the irony of MonsterQuest. They are really just seeking animals, odd ones perhaps; but we should never consider "animal" as a pejorative term. We need to come to respect and understanding of different forms of life and consciousness.
Image: A Bigfoot statue at Orick, CA, says howdy, or acts like a wise sage, or..... Photo, Steven Streufert, 2009.
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Recently, a middle school kid from Southern California sent us a letter asking questions for a school project about the world of cryptozoology, Sasquatch, Bigfoot research, and what it's like to be a part of it. What, basically, is it like to explore things that the majority of society views as crazy? We started by thinking the answer to this would be a simple few short sentences per question, but now we find there are no simple answers. At least, we cannot stop from going on and on about Squatchy stuff. His questions are numbered in the following, with our responses between each number.
Images, here and at bottom of this section: Winter clouds above Willow Creek, CA and Bigfoot Country at sunset, By Steven Streufert, 2010. All photos, CLICK TO ENLARGE.
Images, here and at bottom of this section: Winter clouds above Willow Creek, CA and Bigfoot Country at sunset, By Steven Streufert, 2010. All photos, CLICK TO ENLARGE.
1) Did any one person inspire you to research Bigfoot?
No one person was my singular influence, but I have to say that it was the Patterson-Gimlin film that first intrigued me, as a kid of about 10 years old, when I saw it at a drive-in movie theater. From there I read all of the books I could find in the local library, and within these I became enamored with the adventurous image of Roger and Bob on their horses exploring this great mystery of nature. The images of them I saw in this early documentary, riding their horses through the wooded creek bed, settled in my mind the idea that the natural world held surprising and fascinating things, beyond just lions, tigers and bears. Those old black and white photos in John Green's books seemed to come from another world; but then, nearly thirty years later, I found myself living in Humboldt County, and then Willow Creek in particular, right in the center of the history of the Bigfoot phenomenon. Standing on the ridge where those early footprints were found by Jerry Crew in 1958, and others were found later in 1967, proved to be absolutely inspiring. It was like a Christian going to the Holy Land. In 2000 I camped in Louse Camp, where the Pacific Northwest Expedition was based, and just could not believe the powerful feeling I had hiking up Bluff Creek itself, toward the P-G film site. At night I could have sworn there were big Creatures out there watching me in the dark woods.
Over the years those early photos of the investigators really stuck with me. Reading their stories was even better. It was Rene Dahinden who, with his witty humor, critical sarcasm and determination, really influenced me the most. I never got to meet him, but since his death I have met many of the most famous bigfooters, and can even email them or talk to them on the phone when I have questions. It is amazing how closely-knit, or how interconnected, the Bigfoot community really is. Once you put your foot in the door and prove yourself to be sincere, you suddenly seem to know just about everybody, or at least know of them and their activities. The one of them all who inspires me the most these days is Bob Gimlin. He is still alive and sharp as a tack, and he has held true to his story of how they filmed the Creature all of these years ago. Perhaps the most convincing thing to me that tends to prove Bigfoot exists is hearing Bob Gimlin, a guy who obviously would not lie to you, say that he saw what he saw on that sandbar back on October 20th, 1967.
As far as current researchers, I'd have to choose Daniel Perez as an inspiration. When I first got a hold of his BIGFOOT TIMES newsletter and books BIGFOOT AT BLUFF CREEK and BIG FOOTNOTES I was really impressed with the fact that someone out there was doing scholarly work with full documentation and historical fact-checking. Daniel is also a great critical gadfly, and he keeps all bigfooters on their toes, lest they wander down the wrong paths and suffer the wrath of his pen. Perez is the real successor to both John Green and Dahinden, though he doesn't get out into the field as much as guys like Matt Moneymaker, James Bobo Fay and Cliff Barackman of the BFRO, who also inspire and interest me greatly.
No one person was my singular influence, but I have to say that it was the Patterson-Gimlin film that first intrigued me, as a kid of about 10 years old, when I saw it at a drive-in movie theater. From there I read all of the books I could find in the local library, and within these I became enamored with the adventurous image of Roger and Bob on their horses exploring this great mystery of nature. The images of them I saw in this early documentary, riding their horses through the wooded creek bed, settled in my mind the idea that the natural world held surprising and fascinating things, beyond just lions, tigers and bears. Those old black and white photos in John Green's books seemed to come from another world; but then, nearly thirty years later, I found myself living in Humboldt County, and then Willow Creek in particular, right in the center of the history of the Bigfoot phenomenon. Standing on the ridge where those early footprints were found by Jerry Crew in 1958, and others were found later in 1967, proved to be absolutely inspiring. It was like a Christian going to the Holy Land. In 2000 I camped in Louse Camp, where the Pacific Northwest Expedition was based, and just could not believe the powerful feeling I had hiking up Bluff Creek itself, toward the P-G film site. At night I could have sworn there were big Creatures out there watching me in the dark woods.
Over the years those early photos of the investigators really stuck with me. Reading their stories was even better. It was Rene Dahinden who, with his witty humor, critical sarcasm and determination, really influenced me the most. I never got to meet him, but since his death I have met many of the most famous bigfooters, and can even email them or talk to them on the phone when I have questions. It is amazing how closely-knit, or how interconnected, the Bigfoot community really is. Once you put your foot in the door and prove yourself to be sincere, you suddenly seem to know just about everybody, or at least know of them and their activities. The one of them all who inspires me the most these days is Bob Gimlin. He is still alive and sharp as a tack, and he has held true to his story of how they filmed the Creature all of these years ago. Perhaps the most convincing thing to me that tends to prove Bigfoot exists is hearing Bob Gimlin, a guy who obviously would not lie to you, say that he saw what he saw on that sandbar back on October 20th, 1967.
As far as current researchers, I'd have to choose Daniel Perez as an inspiration. When I first got a hold of his BIGFOOT TIMES newsletter and books BIGFOOT AT BLUFF CREEK and BIG FOOTNOTES I was really impressed with the fact that someone out there was doing scholarly work with full documentation and historical fact-checking. Daniel is also a great critical gadfly, and he keeps all bigfooters on their toes, lest they wander down the wrong paths and suffer the wrath of his pen. Perez is the real successor to both John Green and Dahinden, though he doesn't get out into the field as much as guys like Matt Moneymaker, James Bobo Fay and Cliff Barackman of the BFRO, who also inspire and interest me greatly.
2) Have you bought any Bigfoot memorabilia not including books?
Well, I have to admit it: I am kind of a Bigfoot geek. Just like Star Trek fans collect all kinds of stuff, and in fact sometimes everything having to do with that show, I too seem to gather up Bigfoot things. I don’t like to buy new novelties so much, but love any classic Bigfoot object, from old clippings from magazines, footprint casts, little statues, movies, buttons, patches, coffee mugs, stickers, posters and just about anything else. The clear favorite Bigfoot collection is my authentic replica of the sculpted head of Bigfoot that Roger Patterson made before he made his famous film--it is one of the few things that don't end up for sale in the shop. Really, though, since I am in the business of selling used and rare books, I try to focus my spending and collecting on obtaining rare and unusual books on Bigfoot/Sasquatch. I don’t really make much money on these things, but stock them nonetheless, as I like to have them all around me, and I love to be able to share them with customers and visiting Bigfooters. Really, though, one could spend all day and all of one’s money collecting Bigfoot junk. There is just SO much of it that one has to draw a line somewhere. Plus, it is usually really hard to find, and rare. Therefore, I do try to stay away from hunting for the Creature on eBay when I can.
3) Are there any specific requirements or types of training needed to have a job involved with Sasquatch?
I have to tell you that there really isn’t any “job” that officially involves Bigfoot hunting. In fact, most of the bigfooters seem to spend all of their own time and money financing this hobby and obsession. It sometimes comes to dominate people’s lives over everything else, as it did with Rene Dahinden, and often results in divorce and poverty. Sometimes a belief in Bigfoot, if too prominently displayed publicly, can threaten your employability. This would especially apply in positions such as a college professor or police officer. That being said, police officers and rangers are one of the largest groups of Bigfoot witnesses out there. There are rangers, such as Robert Leiterman here in Humboldt County, who also do Bigfoot field research in their spare time. Mr. Leiterman is even paid to do campfire presentations on the Bigfoot mystery in his job in the redwood forest. He is also an author of fictional Bigfoot books for young readers.
Images: Two of Rene Dahinden, historical. Also, the "Bigfoot Lives" metallic pin, produced by Bishop Products.
Images: Two of Rene Dahinden, historical. Also, the "Bigfoot Lives" metallic pin, produced by Bishop Products.
If you want specifically to explore a career that could involve Bigfoot in some way, then I would recommend that you choose a field that could put you out in nature where the Creatures are. Either that, or be like Dr. Jeff Meldrum or Kathy Moskowitz-Strain, both noted Bigfoot researchers you may have seen on television, and study in an academic field that could somehow relate to the Big Hairy Guy. Both of the above are in Anthropology. Another way would clearly be to study Biology, and perhaps to focus on wildlife and ecological issues. Researchers such as John Bindernagel have strong backgrounds in traditional studies that suit them well when out in the field looking for Bigfoot, or as authors and public speakers on the subject. Or, perhaps, you could be like myself—I studied Literature, Philosophy, Religion and Psychology, got two Masters degrees, and somehow ended up in love with the antiquarian book trade and selling books in Willow Creek. My love of all things interesting and strange eventually kept me from wanting to specialize in any one single thing. Through books I can specialize in everything; but somehow, in great measure because of where I live, Bigfoot seems to have taken over my life and much of my time. I say that if you are deeply interested in Bigfoot, then you will find that Bigfoot is tracking YOU. Just moving to the town where I live has put me right in the middle of Bigfoot action and history. What more could I ask for that to see that famous Bigfoot statue, which I knew of in childhood, every day as I go to work?
4) At school many people make fun of me because I am researching Bigfoot. Have you ever been put down because of doing what you love to do?
You know, there will always be some of your peers who will pick on you for whatever you do in your life or for that in which you believe. Mostly they are just insecure in themselves, and seek to find what they think are weaknesses in others. They are either jealous or afraid of being different themselves. They live with a herd mentality, it would seem, a state quite contrary to human intelligence and individuality. I would say you should pursue what you are interested in and love, and not to worry about the rest. No one has ever achieved greatness by being the same as everyone else. People are at their pinnacle when they have the guts to strike out on their own and look at things in new and interesting ways. I think you will find that the Universe will pay you back accordingly, providing satisfactory rewards for you to the same extent that you are willing to stick your neck out and really go for it.
Bigfoot research is really not that strange, if you know the full history and body of evidence. It is just the study of an animal that can't be captured or proven, or hasn't been yet, anyway. It seems funny if all you know is what appears in bad, joking television shows and tabloid magazines. Rather, I would argue, the huge body of sightings and reports over a long period of time suggest at the very least there is something more to this phenomenon than mere hallucination, craziness, and wishful thinking. There really does seem to be something real behind it, even if some of that is really within the realm of human psychology.
Bigfoot research is really not that strange, if you know the full history and body of evidence. It is just the study of an animal that can't be captured or proven, or hasn't been yet, anyway. It seems funny if all you know is what appears in bad, joking television shows and tabloid magazines. Rather, I would argue, the huge body of sightings and reports over a long period of time suggest at the very least there is something more to this phenomenon than mere hallucination, craziness, and wishful thinking. There really does seem to be something real behind it, even if some of that is really within the realm of human psychology.
In the field of Bigfoot research it does one well to have studied Logic. If you are going to profess any kind of belief you should be quite sure that your ideas make sense, and their bases are reasonable. Before I ever considered writing or blogging on Bigfoot I made darn sure that I knew what I was talking about first. I read something like 60 books on Bigfoot/Sasquatch before I ever began internet publishing. I read ALL of the skeptical books, too, so that I would know exactly what I would be up against and what tactics I would have to use to combat illogic coming from the so-called skeptical, scientific side of the argument.
Image: Doesn't this Yeti look like a Muppet?
I would advise strongly that you consider whether you want to be a public figure in Bigfoot research, or a private investigator. Once you enter the field as a known person you will find that the “B-word” will be attached to you wherever you go. If one Googles my name, for instance, one will find innumerable Bigfoot references and links. If I were a professional in some field where it mattered I might have thought twice about it. Luckily, though, I am self-employed, and I can’t imagine there are many book-buying customers who would hold Bigfoot against me. It could impact me if, say, I ever wanted to get involved with something like teaching, though. However, there are many Bigfoot researchers who hold down perfectly normal jobs, and don’t have to hide their interests, people like researchers Cliff Barackman and Thom Powell, both of whom are school teachers. I don’t care, personally—I am committed. I don’t say “I believe” because I don't like that term, but rather that I am infinitely interested in the subject. That keeps me going, and it keeps the skeptical bugs off my back.
5) Have you ever been on any documentary like shows similar to MonsterQuest?
No, I’ve never been on that show, or any other major television or radio shows. However, I do know personally or communicate with many of the people you see on MonsterQuest and the other ones. It’s funny, a small world kind of feeling, in the Bigfoot world. I have appeared live on an hour-long internet radio show called SquatchDetective (click link to listen), on BlogTalk Radio. That was fun, though a little nerve-wracking, especially at first. After the first few minutes, though, I found that Bigfoot interest took over, and there was by the end not nearly enough time to cover all that I’d wanted to talk about. It just flew by; and I am one who is not too fond of public speaking to groups any larger than my close friends.
Image: Speakers at the Yakima Bigfoot Round-Up, 2009, with Bob Gimlin. Jeff Meldrum, Kathy Strain, Gimlin, Derek Randles, John Bindernagel, and Chris Murphy (obscured by camera). By Steven Streufert.
I didn’t decide to come out publicly as a "bigfooter" until the 2007 Willow Creek Patterson-Gimlin Film 40th Anniversary Celebration. Before that I was just privately curious, and not too aware of how vast the Bigfoot Community really is. I published my first writing on Bigfoot in an article concerning that conference, in the North Coast Journal, a Humboldt County arts and culture paper. I was pretty involved before that, though, co-founding the humorous Church of Bigfoot, Scientist in 1999 or so, and attending the great International Bigfoot Symposium here in our town in 2003. During the last decade I developed my own personal interest in the cryptid hominoid questions, and have also had a few "strange" moments in the woods that may have been Bigfoot encounters. I live in the forested mountains, so it isn't hard for me to go "Bigfoot hunting." In 2008 something large and heavy, not some bear or deer, walked down by my cabin on a hill above Willow Creek. I can only explain it as a Sasquatch. What else could it have been? I ask myself constantly. There’s no turning back now, I suppose, though I have never actually SEEN the creature with absolute certainty. Currently my blog has garnered almost 23,000 hits in just over a year of publishing it, and it is growing. Recently we have been featured at the top of the list of the “Best Bloggers on Bigfoot Research” on the BFRO web site, the most popular Bigfoot site in the world so far as we know. Who knows what the future may hold? Bigfoot calls me onward.
6) Has researching Sasquatch ever backfired on you (i.e., someone avoided you for researching Bigfoot)?
Well, I’ll tell you, the ladies don’t seem to like it very much. They seem to generally think Bigfoot research is just a little “icky.” You don’t want to talk about Bigfoot when you’re out on the town, or out on a date. A lot of my friends don’t seem to like it, especially as they can’t seem to understand why I have gotten so deeply into it. It seems strange to them, not from the perspective of the Creature being strange so much as they think I am a bit strange. That is OK. I like strange and mysterious things!
One way that Bigfoot research can backfire is in regard to relations with other researchers. They all have their opinions, and sometimes not that much real substantiation for them. Pretty much ANY position one takes will end up angering someone. These battles over points, which for the most part cannot be proven any more than the Creature, may end up frequently in public recrimination, flame wars, and the flinging of insults and anger all over the internet and in the Bigfoot rumor mill. I call this phenomenon “The Bigfoot Wars,” and this has gone on essentially from the start, when early guys like Bob Titmus, Peter Byrne, Rene Dahinden, and John Green all ended up kind of hating each other. At least, they tended not to want to work together, and so the research only suffered because of personal differences. It seems to work like this: because the creature is so elusive, so intangible nearly all the time, so un-provable in the normal scientific ways, and because we cannot really pin down basic features, facts and behaviors without a captured specimen, we are left just with the sometimes vague or contradictory things that witnesses say, and then the all too human arguments about them after the fact. These arguments exist even though much of the time they are based on nothing, on nothing but hot, thin air and defensive egotism.
Image: Roger and Bob with Bigfoot, drawn by Mike Rugg, on Jerry Hein's memorabilia sales table, Yakima Round-Up. By Steven Streufert, 2009.
Another problem which I regret to have to mention is that of the witnesses. This is a big issue these days. In my store I get dozens of reports a year, and one has to really wonder about some of them. Most are quite ordinary and believable, and the people seem wholly credible and reliable. Other times there are people who seem to have a problem with pathological lying or exaggerated tall tale telling. Sometimes they just want to see if they can trick you into believing them, to see if they can pull your leg. Though the majority of them are believable, often there are people who report things that seem good at first, and then get stranger and more elaborate and unbelievable as they go along telling the story. One has to take a step back and wonder if these people are possibly having drug problems, delusional, confused, irrational, or just dishonestly seeking attention. They are the few, but they often have the most grand and impressive stories. Sometimes one gets involved with them on a personal level, and they begin to regard one as a friend and confidante. This can be dangerous as the researcher then starts to lose objectivity on the one hand, and gets wrapped up in their antic personal or family problems on the other. This has happened to me in several instances, where I really had to back away from a witness I no longer trusted to tell the truth and be psychologically clear.
It is as Daniel Perez has told me, “Trust, but Verify.” One should check these things out, but not be led down a loony or hoaxing path. Most of the witnesses are for real, though, and this is the most impressive proof that there is SOMETHING out there, for sure. The Backfire Effect of which you speak is why I have "ANGRY BIGFOOT SPEAKS" on my blog. He helps me say serious things in commentary on issues, but with humor and satire. Hopefully he lessens backlash, and I get to vent my own feelings.
7) Which Bigfoot-related movie is your favorite and which would you recommend to me?
I like everything that has Bigfoot in it, generally. Though, one does often grow tired of the fictional B-movie grade Bigfoot slasher/killer horror films. There are some classics in this genre, however, such as ABOMINABLE. And then there is the great THE LEGEND OF BOGGY CREEK. The latter is of particular interest, as it is basically a docudrama, based on a true story, using original locations and even local people from Fouke, Arkansas, but it combines them with typical horror motifs that keep the film entertaining and at times exciting. It is also a nature film, and I must say that perhaps the scariest aspect of the film is the excellently done, beautiful but sinister footage of the spooky swamps where the creature is said to live. I’ve seen most of the Bigfoot films, and the fictional ones are nearly all pretty bad; but I watch them all anyway--it's fun, if nothing else. I am interested in the Creature itself as an apparently real creature, but I am just as intrigued by popular cultural manifestations of the motif. HARRY AND THE HENDERSONS was too cute for me to really like, too silly, but it had a good message at its heart.
I really prefer the non-fictional documentaries, but they are made for TV, and it is truly rare that one is made that does not degenerate into tabloid mockery or superficial skeptical dismissal without real substantiation. There are some that are partly good, like MONSTERQUEST, and the National Geographic ones, but these fall short with critical flaws and their attraction to over-dramatizing things for ratings rather than taking them fully seriously. SASQUATCH: LEGEND MEETS SCIENCE is a very good one that tries to consider some real evidence in real ways, and looks at a few of the famous films made of the creature. Also very good are the A-and-E ANCIENT MYSTERIES documentary, with Leonard Nimoy narrating, and the old IN SEARCH OF… BIGFOOT episode.
CLICK LINKS OF LAST FEW TITLES TO VIEW FOR FREE OR BUY VIDEOS, the last two are online streaming, courtesy of the BFRO web site.
CLICK LINKS OF LAST FEW TITLES TO VIEW FOR FREE OR BUY VIDEOS, the last two are online streaming, courtesy of the BFRO web site.
You have to take the serious and the humorous together. One leavens the other. If one can’t necessarily find or prove Bigfoot, it is OK to watch a silly horror flick that can make you laugh. Some will even make you wonder. Good luck with your I-Search project! Keep your mind and eyes open. You never know what you may see!
* (Title after Rilke's Letters to a Young Poet)
* (Title after Rilke's Letters to a Young Poet)
BONUS LINK: View a good MonsterQuest PGF presentation with Bob Gimlin narrating HERE.
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A DISCUSSION WITH A SKEPTIC ON BIGFOOT,
PART TWO, A More Brief Addendum.
A brief interaction with “Skeptic” from our previous blog entry, DISCUSSION WITH A SKEPTIC ON BIGFOOT (click linked text to read it), began after he saw the recent National Geographic documentary, American Paranormal: Bigfoot. This is a minimal update to our previous post. As we were on our iPhone and hence limited in our typing patience, we mainly just let him do the talking. It is interesting, as one may see how he is ALMOST convinced by the Patterson-Gimlin Film, and even admits the possibility of a real Bigfoot to some degree. He sent in the following:
SKEPTIC: Actually, I saw a show on BF last night on Nat Geo. It heavily features Bill Munns' digitization and analysis of PGF. It was definitely biased in that they didn't talk to a lot of experts, but they did show some interesting stuff. The musculature of the PGF creature may be the convincing thing, at least in the way it was presented. The "compliant gait" could be faked, longer arms could be added as part of the suit, but the way the fur clings to the body and muscle contraction seems visible. That is hard to fake even now, but particularly with ape suits available at that time. So maybe it is real. I just don't know. I wish a panel of totally disinterested anatomists and kinesiologists could really be brought together to look at the film. The film is ultimately the closest "proof" there is.
"Skeptic," again, followed up when he had proposed that perhaps the PG Film was real, but that the Bigfoot had gone extinct since then, and when we replied that there are more sighting reports now than ever:
SKEPTIC: The fact there are more sightings WITHOUT film or other evidence makes it less probable that it is real, you know. So the fact that there are more sightings now, yet still without evidence, argues against the existence of Bigfoot, and more that there are more people now there, more delusions, wishful thinking, mis-sightings (brown bears, whose habitat is similar to that of many BF sightings), weird feelings in the woods, more hoaxes, etc. The more the encounters, the greater the chance of real documentation, if the creature is real and alive.
Then, on Mar 13, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Steven Streufert, Bigfoot Books wrote, and started it up again:
BIGFOOT BOOKS: “Bigfoot?” Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=banaB07Fu9c&feature=related
Watch it until the midpoint, at least.
(This is the video of a three-legged bear waking bipedally upright, looking a lot like a Bigfoot when it moves through the woods, obscured partially by branches.)
SKEPTIC: I think a lot of bigfoot "sightings" are probably black bears. Their habitat and the locations of bigfoot sightings overlap very nicely. Others are just hallucinations or "spooked feelings" onto which people project some image in their brains, like a lot of ghost "sightings." On another note, it's amazing that the bear survived after presumably losing one of its front legs/arms in a bear trap. It defied the odds in surviving bleeding or infection. It then later survived the odds by surviving with this very real handicap. It may have been aided in its survival by scavenging on thrown-away human food in garbage cans and dumps.
BIGFOOT BOOKS: It looks amazingly like a bigfoot when it is moving through the trees. A huge number of BF sightings are probably wishful thinking or mis-interpretive imagination. However, there are many that are vividly up close and personal, undeniable... unless the witnesses are liars. Bears are impressive creatures. That they can survive as they do indicates that an omnivorous BF creature could, too, if it were adaptive and flexible.
SKEPTIC: Yes, some bears will survive and maybe thrive as scavengers as our population continues to grow, largely due to third-world fecundity and immigration. Other bears, less adaptable, like Grizzlies are doomed, as are many other animals.
Bigfoot is either fiction or has died out due to its own lack of adaptability and loss of habitat (or isolation of once continuous roaming areas by human development). Other hominid species and non-hominid primates have existed until fairly recently, and bones really do decay or become buried under leaves and soil fast in forests. So it is possible that there was a human-like animal in N. America until recently. I don't think it exists anymore, if it did. With more humans, more cameras (virtually every cell phone now), there'd be more PGF-type footages at the least.
Bigfoot fulfills the human desire for transcendency and escapism from the nudging and gnawing sense that we are animals, born for no reason, dying for no reason, just here to eat, shit and reproduce. Everyone feels this. We need mystery to survive psychologically. Without mystery, we have to face the banality and triviality of our own lives and deaths.
It is ironic that we seek both certainty and mystery. Certainty, because it alleviates our own questions about our positions in the world and our own decisions. Mystery, because so long as there is mystery, there is a chance of there being something more than random material cause and effect, which is a kind of certainty, but not the kind we crave, as it is dehumanizing and mechanical. We need both, and in some way they reinforce each other, even though they are diametrically opposed.
We want fascistic certainty about our own importance, yet we want unknowables that point to other worlds to which we may one day ascend. Related but distinct, and again irreconcilable with strict logic. But reconcilable when considering human psychology.
BIGFOOT BOOKS: There is a lot of evidence in Native American culture that there were once a whole lot of them out there. BFROVIDEOS on YouTube had a really cool thermal video. They may have made it pay-per-view, though. There is still a lot of habitat. Come on up here sometime and I'll show you "Bigfoot Country." I predict that wolves and grizzlies will one day re-colonize in the lower 48, perhaps even spreading into Northern California. Only a matter of time, and Conservation….
SKEPTIC: There was also a belief that the world was created by spiders or other creatures in N.A. cultures. And, again, when I go outside at night, I can sometimes "feel" weird creatures in the woods, and it frightens and thrills me. We all want that. We want to know there is more than just what we see out there, even as we want to know there are rules.
It is easy to project our desire for "others" (which beyond maintaining the mystery we need also alleviates the loneliness we feel) onto human-like creatures that may be out there. We have had language longer than the last date of extinction of other hominids, e.g. Neanderthals and probably others. So there is also an oral tradition of man-like creatures, which once did exist alongside of us, that may have been passed down to many cultures.
And I am willing to concede that some ape-like creature, perhaps even a hominid, did exist alongside us in N. America for some time. They did certainly in Europe (until probably about 20K years ago), and, although it is controversial, possibly in Indonesia even until perhaps even just a half-dozen to a dozen thousand years ago. There may well be more.
BIGFOOT BOOKS: Some things are metaphoric, some aren't. Spiders = “web of stars,” for instance. Indonesia area still has "hobbit" reports. Orang Pendak… Google it.
SKEPTIC: I know, but there was controversy about whether the fossils were properly identified. I don't give much credence to recent reports. Some things are metaphoric, yes, and so BF might be too. It's the wildman myth.
BIGFOOT BOOKS: "The mythology has to come from somewhere. It doesn't just come out of a Kellogg's corn flake box!" --Rene Dahinden
I LIKE the maybe, and BF is the best of them all as he stands just the other side of real, and may be real. Look into HOBBIT. They have found many more skeletons. A ... population! Views have changed. Be open minded. It's the best way to be. By no means have humans reached the limits of understanding.
SKEPTIC: There are bones of H. floresiensis. There are none of bigfoot. The controversy about the hobbit is whether it was a separate species or just a group of miniature humans.
There is something one learns when taking an ecology class. Large animals require truly huge areas. Shy and retiring large animals require even more. And while the total amount of undisturbed area may still be great, it is broken up. And, again, one learns in ecology classes that it is not sheer area that matters, but connectivity. One huge area of 100,000 acres, say, means more biodiversity, especially for larger animals, than 100,000 acres broken up by roads and human settlements into 10 x 10,000 acres.
Images: Homo floresiensis skulls, and one from H. sapiens for comparison. Sourced on Wikipedia Commons.
This is actually a last-ditch conservation philosophy, providing corridors for animals to gain access to larger area footprints. It's often just a simple road that cuts habitats in two and prevents access to the larger territory. Corridors don't always work, though, as it means somehow funneling animals through a small "tunnel" to access to other part of the territory.
So, even when the "virgin" areas may seem large in sum, if they are broken, even just by small roads, into parcels (and for a big animal even 50 sq. miles - a huge "parcel" by our standards - may not be enough), it just doesn't work for certain animals.
If you consider the number of, say, 50 sq. mile areas that are unbroken and undisturbed in the world by any road or other human scar, there are very few. Perhaps in the Amazon, but, even there, that's disappearing fast.
BIGFOOT BOOKS: There are LOTS of those areas here, with only dirt or very sparsely traveled roads. Come see for yourself!
SKEPTIC: If BF is human-shy, it would not be sparse enough. Look at a Google satellite map of the area. Not as sparse as that. Also, where are the movies and photos. Everyone has a cell phone with a camera these days.
Image: Thank you Google Earth. You helped me greatly in studying the P-G film site zone before venturing forth! Click to enlarge to see the location of the site.
SKEPTIC: Walk and take a camera. Send me a pic of BF!
BIGFOOT BOOKS: I've tried. I think there was one in my yard, a forest actually, but a photo was impossible. I didn't actually see it. But it behaved and sounded like no other animal I know.
SKEPTIC: I've heard weird sounds in my yard too. Doesn't mean it was BF. Maybe it was a chick stalking you.
BIGFOOT BOOKS: This instance was different. I KNOW weird sounds. I had a mountain lion in my yard yesterday. Raccoons, foxes, bears, skunks, owls, doves, hawks, osprey, deer--all sorts of things live up here. That one night, whatever it was, was NONE of them. I doubt it was a 500 pound man in the middle of the night, either.
Chicks? I don't tend to go for the ones that make the ground shake when they walk, though.
SKEPTIC: Maybe, but probably not. The mind is a powerful instrument of hallucination and misinterpretation of senses. Mama Cass is stalking you.
Image: Rene Dahinden's foot is dwarfed by the Bigfoot track, this one appearing to be from the 1967 Patty creature. Historical.
BIGFOOT BOOKS: I was absolutely lucid during the event, and checking my assumptions all along the way. Basically... WTF?! Mama Cass? Maybe her reincarnation?
SKEPTIC: With 500-lb creature, you would have seen footprints afterwards. Did you check?
SKEPTIC: But 500-lb depressions?
BIGFOOT BOOKS: Who knows??? Heavy, but how can you tell? I don't know the actual weight, but it sounded huge, heavier than a black bear.
SKEPTIC: Did it smell?
BIGFOOT BOOKS: I didn't notice scent/odor. But I was smoking at the time.
At this point the discussion died out due to the late hour back on the east coast as compared to our much more kind Pacific Time. We started it up again with one more, final question, this time luxuriously typed out on a proper keyboard.
BIGFOOT BOOKS: I am intrigued by your previous discussion of our need for at once Mystery and Certainty. I've thought about the role of the mysterious for a long time now, and the meaning of "Bigfoot" within those functional roles. You put the case very well.
In this sense, a bona fide mystery can serve the very same role as a mythological one. In fact, they blend with each other in the human psyche. But aren't the "real" things just as mysterious, especially at early points of discovery? Aren't there always mysteries, and isn't this what drives Science and exploratory quests and hypotheses?
I would argue that Bigfoot is no different from all the other things we have sought to know, and explore, and discover. The entire world at one time was a great unknown to our species, full of potent magic and mystery and, of course, fear. Fear of the unknown, fear for survival, these drove us , along with a desire for power. Now it is really much the same, as though we do know a lot, the mysteries still seem to expand at as great or a greater proportion to our discoveries and validations. Think of Cosmology and Quantum Physics, for instance. Or the exploration of Genetic mapping, of micro-processes within cells, within matter itself.
Images, above and below: Three Willow Creek Bigfoot statues, shot in one night on a low-grade iPhone camera, for "artistic effect." By Steven Streufert, 2010.
I would argue, also, that the sense of banality and absurdity in life, though at times crushingly real to us, is really just a lack of imagination and inspiration. What we know is really quite small compared to what is, and there are ample mysteries abounding in the universe beyond our small, known world. Though we cannot escape bodily physical death and the daily monotonous requirements of life, there are means for transcendence readily available to us at all times, techniques of art and vision, and technologies of the "soul" like Buddhism, which may allow us to escape the narrow bounds of a time-space bound form of consciousness.
Your reply?
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Me have to admit it. Some time me can not stop self from stealing hu-man food. Me not eat hu-man, but cookie or pie hard to resist, and taste so much better. Me steal from window ledge, run off with goodie. That why sometime hu-man get to see me, even though me so sneaky other time. Me angry just because cookie no grow on tree. Would be perfect world in nature if that true. But no. No. Hu-man researcher say me evolve perfect, so no need be civilized. Me say that not all the way true. Why you think you dumb monkeys see me? Not because you clever. It because me hungry, and curious about crazy thing you do.
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HEY! Who is that crazy blue thing over there in my spot!
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