Here is an excerpt of what she wrote on what we like to call "THE SANE BF FORUM."
THE SEARCH FOR BIGFOOT FORUM:
The BFF will never go away, but we can be vocal in our dislike, and distance ourselves from the BFF and its tatics. I may be involved in this research, but no one on that board speaks for me. Let it serve as an online reference of who to stay away from. There are good people on the staff of the BFF, my issue is with the ones named above. These good people, sadly, are out numbered."
I love your decals! Can you get them made into bumper stickers? Maybe a bigfoot with a Nazi Helmet? I can see plenty of room for good clean fun here. Let me know how I can help. You know how I love a good fascist dictatorship.
July 1, 2010 11:44 PM
July 2, 2010 12:20 AM
And yes, as Melissa Hovey also stated, the PM's at BFF are read by the Admins. So if you have controversial theories that you don't want them to know you believe, well DON'T share them through a PM. That's part of how they verify who they must keep a tight reign on.
July 2, 2010 8:07 AM
Imagine a democratic state where DISSENT was not permitted. This would eventually be a state of either tyranny or bland conformity. It is one of the great rights, privileges, and duties as a citizen to engage in dissent when necessary. This is what I did on the BFF. I was playing nice and by the rules until I saw grievous injustice and irrationality; THEN I decided to rise up against it. Call it "death by cop" if you wish, but I'd rather not live in that nasty world of the BFF anyway. So, all is good, and now we will move onward to better things.
July 2, 2010 11:45 PM
Anon @ 5PM,
A collective analogous response to bad behavior isn't the same as 'initiating' bad behavior. BFF has long been a place where some just seem to get their kicks tearing down people and their claims. Never mind that their logic most often only makes sense to a few there. Others are often afraid to stand up because they realize they may just as easily become the target themselves. THIS IS THE MODUS OPERANDI! There is a long line of undeserving people who have been abused at BFF. It has gone on for years. The Admins and many of the Mods enjoy the power trip they wield. They are a childish group who can't differentiate what it means to 'moderate'. What the leadership REALLY does there is 'enable' a regulated meanness, while finding satisfaction in being honored by subservient followers for what is actually lesser intelligent behavior.
The BFF leadership is assimilating new clones as we speak. New mods who have demonstrated their own inept theoretical development. The leadership must surround themselves with zealous followers groomed at the same school. Individuals who have a specific view of what bigfoot is, and by golly, they are going to make sure everyone else believes the same thing AT BFF! The BFF is a lost train leading to nowhere. A bunch of old school wannabes who will never have a real encounter of their own, because their belief system won't allow them to consider anything but a giant ape is running around our woods. Sadly many naive newcomers there don't understand yet and find BFF as a fun place to chat, while the process continues of witnesses and even credential people being attacked within various threads. It really is a deadly cycle that needs more exposure because it DOES harm the field as a whole, as well as our understanding of the intended subject being discussed.
They don't realize, their tunnel visioned limits of what they 'allow' people there to believe and discuss there, is their own reason for self failure as a group.
July 3, 2010 8:24 AM
To add: That goes for any blog or forum too.
July 3, 2010 8:26 AM
Well, having been suspended myself over there in the past, I can tell you this (while remaining completely impartial and open to other opinions):
There is a regular gang of members/mods on BFF that regularly screams for more details, more evidence, the answers to hard questions, etc. But it's this same group that immediately thrashes anyone who tries to provide the info they are screaming for. The atmosphere is toxic. Someone posted above that every person who brings any account to the BFF is immediately placed on the defensive by the feeding frenzy that is allowed by the mods or their chosen friends, and if anyone complains about this behavior they are given a warning, suspension, or a banning. It's amazing.
The rules are selectively enforced, and don't apply to friends of the mods or the mods themselves. And if you've committed no infraction, but the mods don't want you posting on a subject, they will actually MAKE UP charges to level at you in order to "keep you down", or at least try.
And no, your PM's on the BFF are not "P" (as in Private). Yes, the mods monitor PM's there, and yes, they take action based on their content, but disguise it with the above mentioned "made up" charges.
I'm not going to ask anyone to boycott the BFF's because I think it's important to be able to witness this behavior firsthand. But I will say this: BE VERY CAREFUL OVER THERE because nothing you say is private, and everything you say can and will be used against you at some point if the mods decide you're not one of their "chosen ones".
July 3, 2010 12:36 PM
You're my hero. Yes, you.
July 3, 2010 6:20 PM
I suspect they've noticed they are being watch & criticized and that the so-called leaders are passing the word amongst themselves plus encouraging certain posters there to ease off. If so, their motives for ever appearing to be a kinder gentler gang of jerks, will never make up for real decency.
July 3, 2010 8:52 PM
And this from Redwolf in the Enoch thread: "Please quit pulling the "if you haven't read the book you shouldn't judge" card. It's an old and weak argument."
That is rich! Talk about the epitome of faulty logic. What a standard she would evoke for how research should be conducted. Yep, BFF is absolutely in good hands folks. hehe
Oh look, another person is given a week off in the Enoch thread for being bad. Or is it the status quo at BFF that is bad?
I've got an excellent idea. If all the different groups and researchers out there could just hold off on any announcements or news makers for a few weeks, the problem could possibly solve itself. As long as there are no public news sightings, maybe, just maybe, the ones who froth most at the mouth at bff will begin attacking and consuming one another. You know, just like a bunch of rabid animals. Sure a few innocent victims may get caught in the malay, but they would be sacrificing themselves for the greater good.
Hmm, I just had a maybe-even better idea, and more fun too. How about a blog where the sole purpose is to identify and publish for 'posterity', all the stupid asinine statements that certain people at BFF make about others. We could have a grand time, and we'd never run out of material. lol
July 4, 2010 1:07 PM
"And this from Redwolf in the Enoch thread: "Please quit pulling the "if you haven't read the book you shouldn't judge" card. It's an old and weak argument."
Dear Redwolf: Please do not encourage ignorance. Everyone should be encouraged to inform themselves of all the facts, prior to being involved in a conversation. Unless you enjoy those around you appearing to be less than Knowledgeable about the issues they are discussing.
I know you feel it more appropriate that everyone agree with you and the Admin Team of the BFF, and there is no need for anyone to form their own opinion by self-education, but really you should be promoting responsible behavior.
I remember a day when ignorance of a subject in total, was frowned upon by the BFF.. Now it is encouraged? That is pathetic.
I wish Brian Brown would return, and toss you all out on your butts for destroying his work. You, Teresa, and JayleeD have made a complete mess out of what was once a wonderful place.
Members of the BFF have a right to be angry over the complete face plant that site has taken under Teresa's rule. Without member posts the BFF would be nothing. You should be thanking and appreciating their contribution.
I have never seen a BFF Admin make such an incredibly ignorant statement. Good Job, Redwolf.
July 5, 2010 5:57 AM
I noticed at the top of this page that this particular blog is getting triple the hits as normal. Well, don't get too excited about it. I'm sure a significant number of those hits are from BFF mods coming over here to see if they can dig up any dirt on anyone who posts a comment.
That's what they do.
They've shown this idiotic inter-forum paranoia before. (think back to the MRP debacle)
There aren't very many things as annoying as a small-minded control freak, and now their staff is made up of them. Redwolf and BitterMonk top that list, and their friend Blackdog is allowed to insult anyone he wants with their protection and blessing.
Nothing ever gets advanced on that forum, only torn apart. Some folks thrive on that kind of thing, and they can have it. Most of the rest of us are simply going to pass them by. And if anyone makes any kind of discovery, they'll likely tear it apart because it wasn't shared there. Business as usual. Ironic how these are the same people who enjoy criticizing other organizations so much...
July 5, 2010 11:23 AM
Bigfoot has been a life long interest of mine. Bigfoot research has certainly developed into some strange behavior for some.
Like many others I started reading and posting at the BFF over 10 years ago, not because I had any misconception that I knew it all, but I did feel that I had learned a thing or two.
It seemed ok at first, then I began to notice how those who had a sighting were being treated and it wasn't good. It went from not good to viscous in a very short order.
Anyone who has had a sighting will have their own perspective on what it is that they saw, and this is a good thing as they might very well contribute another piece to the puzzle.
Questions are fine and helpful, but treating those who have had a sighting like they are some kind of foreign spy who needs to be put under spot lights and questioned mercilessly until their answers fit the BFF mold is ridiculous and not at all the way research is done.
I would not recommend that anyone take the BFF seriously anymore and if you have had an experience in the woods don't talk about it there, better yet don't go there at all. The only thing serious about the BFF is the blindness to their own behavior is in serious need of some serious help which I have little hope will ever happen.
July 5, 2010 12:34 PM
My take on BFF. Hah, pity the fool that goes there with an experience, trauma, question, seeking advice,etc.
Do not go there and share anything. I strongly urge you. they will tear you to shreds.
Yes, these people are vicious, and that is putting it mildly. They remind me of a pack of wolves, surround and then go for the kill.
July 5, 2010 9:06 PM
Sorry to hear that you got caught up in the Kool Kids Klub of BFF, But it isn't unexpected from the mentality that resides there, that started with Paul Vella and his Lies and Misrepresentations that he perpetrated on that site.
The list is long, but there was only on thing that remands constant and consistent they will trash you any where and at anytime.
Until you start reminding them of the Lies and double talk that Paul and his KKK have done in the past.
And then a curious thing happens....
Threads get shut down.....reopened just long enough to put some snide snippet post in place and then it closed again.....
But when its responded to on another forum or blog, all of a sudden he and his KKK are quick to attack the forum, group and or blog, for allowing you to even Post your rebuttal.
In essence how DARE you allow this to happen, kind of attitude.
BUT, when this doesn't happen....then its lock up all threads, scrub and clean entries to threads, delete whole threads all together... and then lets pretend it never happened.
That is the BFF, KKK and Paul Vella in a nutshell.
A pretty sad statement of Human Waste and most who have dealt with them would agree.
Good luck to you, Keep the pressure up the will fold after all their leader did.
Posted by Edward (Ed) to BIGFOOT'S bLOG at July 6, 2010 9:32 AM
Plus, an email:
"Steven, Just a note to say that I enjoy your blog. The latest posting telling it like it is regarding the BFF is spot on. Seems that anyone who doesn't fall in line with the new mod team better shut up or expect the boot. Also, thanks for the link to the Search for Bigfoot Forum. It's not one that I was a member of, just signed up today. Keep Squatchin!" -- Keeping It Anonymous
IN RESPONSE TO A COMPLETELY FALLACIOUS COMMENT BELOW, WE WROTE THE FOLLOWING, July 8th, 2010.
To the BFF lackey, below (see Comments). Ha ha ha!!!
I let this comment go through in the name of freedom of discourse. Much less can be said for the BFF environment, where I was warned for MUCH LESS ABRASIVE statements than the one you just made. Really, please quote to me and our audience here just what you think I said on that first BFF thread that was abrasive, OK? Really, I was overly polite, considering the attacks that were being made. I responded to comments sensibly, and then was accused of trying to hide from their great truths. Then I was attacked for supposedly trying to sell books on the BFF. These are violations of the spirit of reasoned debate. With no reason they were coming after me... and I am being accused of "abrasiveness"? Come on. It was "MasterBarber," "Parnassus," then the vicious "BlackDog," then "RedWolf," and finally "Teresa." See how this works its way up the scuzzy feeding chain? This is their raison d'etre. This is what they live for, not logic, not the sincere exploration of the Bigfoot phenomenon. Read the first thread again and tell me where I did anyone any wrong. Honestly, now, just look. You will see it is true. They did not "call me on it," as I had NOT DONE ANYTHING at the time I was attacked. And then the so-called "moderators" began to attack. This is NOT grown-up nor reasonable behavior.
As to your second accusation: in both this blog entry and the previous one on the same topic I made it very clear that these entries contain SATIRE. See, I found the BFF to be an intolerable environment, in part precisely because none on those discussions seemed to get when I was using HUMOR. Instead of chuckling, rather, they chose to become aggressive. I wanted to point this problem of the BFF out to the public. The time to do so was undeniable. Not only was I driven by a desire for some kind of justice, but I also found it utterly hilarious and laughable. Yes, this is ridicule, now. I am mocking you. And guess what? YOU DESERVE IT! The BFF is a childish domain, a stupid little sandbox and playground ruled by the bullies, those who just don't know how to "play nice" with other people, let alone have an intelligent and mature discussion on complex and difficult issues. Sometimes I wonder if these people running the place and their lackey-clowns are even literate. They perceive an intelligent response as arrogance, and think they are smart when they are merely snarky at best. Excuse me if you aren't laughing. It is funny to us. And I laugh at you now, you BFF CULT MEMBER mind-slave. Vindictive? You betcha; and yes, I do feel spite toward the BFF and its low standards of behavior and discourse. YES, I DO want revenge. The BFF does not deserve any longer to be considered the "most popular one-stop shop for Sasquatch talk." It IS, effectively, a mere ghetto for losers, ruled by even bigger losers. I emphatically URGE all serious Bigfooters to join me and get the heck OUT of that cesspit. So there! You amuse me, BFF, but I ain't gonna play your little games anymore.
NO ONE ATTACKED ME HERE [in this thread]. Though it has happened at other times.
Looks like BlackDog is trying to do it, but I'm above all of that.
I was talking about attacks on Autumn Williams on another thread.
No, I am not selling ENOCH here; but I do have a copy in my shop.
Black Dog, I'm not falling for it this time. BTW. Don't you have
anything better to do than snap and bark at my heels?
I'm not implying anyone is insane. I was saying that there sometimes is
"insanity" on this forum, like most forums that discuss controversial
issues. Please re-read posts before replying, I guess, is what needs to
be said. What I said was very simple and clear, wasn't it?
AND, to Conclude: HERE'S AN EMAIL AUTHORIZED FOR POSTING WRITTEN BY Ex-BFF Moderator, "RedRatSnake":
" I think it has come time for the BFF to realize that they are not looked at as the major legitimate big foot forum any longer, the years of picking away at good research and reputations, turning folks / organizations against one another and splitting up friendships for the sake of getting a personal kick out of it is not very welcome, i urge folks to join in the boycott of the BFF and send a message to Chief Administrator Teresa and her staff that there are many other very good forums to bring research too and the BFF is off the list, Serious bigfoot enthusiast's have enough to deal with because of the ~ The Tom Biscardi Circus ~ an uncontrolled runaway tabloid like bigfoot forum further hurting the cause is certainly not needed right now." ~ RedRatSnake ~ JULY 6th 2010
NOW, GO CLICK THE "COMMENTS" LINK, BELOW, and See What Others Think!
(Angry Bigfoot channeled for this issue by Denali Brown, age 8)