Thursday, September 30, 2010


Blog Reader Bryan Puzzles over the NCJ Bigfoot Article
Image Courtesy of the Reader
a.k.a, WTF Does This All Have to Do with BIGFOOT, Anyway?

OK, so this "news" came up, and we'll just have to deal with it somehow, even though the disgust we felt about it kept us away from wanting to blog for nearly three weeks. Hence, the Willow Creek BIGFOOT DAYS and BLUFF CREEK TRIP, Part Two blog entries will just have to wait a while more... not to mention our second Bluff Creek film site documentary filming expedition, and the follow-up trip up the creek to the P-G site upcoming. Let these be nuts stashed away for the fall and coming winter. So it goes, to the back burner, along with so many other crazy topics boiling over back there (yes, the Bluff Creek Massacre has raised its ugly head again). Sorry, but it isn't every week that one gets accused of being the next Charles Manson. We admit it, it's funny. Nor does one find oneself often in the cover story of the best local paper. Read on, we dare ye....

There's a LOT crammed into this blog entry. Sorry about that! Don't miss the great new Bigfoot painting from JESSE WIEDEL, found below.

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North Coast Journal of Politics, People, Art,
...and BIGFOOT? 9/23/2010
In the September 23rd issue of THE NORTHCOAST JOURNAL, published out of Eureka, CA, we were featured in a story written by Heidi Walters, concerning our battles against the Trolls formerly in control of the BIGFOOT FORUMS, erstwhile known as the "Jimites."

"Bigfoot and the Trolls: How a Bookseller in Willow Creek Caused the Biggest Bigfoot Forum on the Web to Be Shut Down. Or Did He?"
Click the title above to read the 8-page article.
Go to the photo gallery HERE.
Be sure to read the COMMENTS section at the bottom of each page of the article. We invite our readers to take a stand and leave comments of their own.

This article was mentioned by The Bigfoot Lunch Club--a blog we like--so read their entry here:
Bigfoot Wars II: Beware of the Trolls

Let's see... the GCBRO Forum says I am Evil. The JREF says I am a Weirdo. And now the Bigfootery Enquirer says I have "Charlie Manson eyes." I suppose I must be doing SOMETHING RIGHT with the blog...!

Patty Manson? Confirms on
googly eyes, evasive and suspicious
disposition, hippie beard and hair,
swastika forehead and cone head.
(Yes, we, too, read "Find Bigfoot"
on Facebook!)

We guess it's all fair, in love, Bigfooting and war; but there are crucial distinctions to be made in terms of both motive and execution. In our protest against the tyranny of unfairness and crony-culture that had come to dominate the old BIGFOOT FORUMS (BFF), we had used over-the-top and sometimes ridiculous satire to get our point across. We called forth the ghosts of Stalinism, Nazism and Orwell's Big Brother to reveal the absurdity of a discussion board presided over by an oligarchy of "administrators" and "moderators" who were anything but moderate or impartial in their application of the "rules" by which the Forums were supposed to be governed. AND IT WORKED (well, maybe... see below for an update). The BFF was shut down and reconstituted under a new administration, new rules, and a new internet host. The load was taken from its founder, Brian Brown, and yet the BFF was preserved, with the archives hopefully soon to follow. The power, too, was taken away from the "dogs" and trolls who were controlling it. Away from a group that has jokingly been called the "Jimites."

BFE: A Blog About the People of Bigfootery... and their BS.
A recent blog entry by the BIGFOOTERY ENQUIRER took digs at us, calling us a "Gorilla."
Read it here: GORILLAS IN OUR MIDST, if you care. BFE-guy had been getting a bit edgy lately, as we along with Steve Kulls of SquatchDetective Radio and some secret others tried to unearth his secretive identity. What concerns us here is the COMMENTS on this entry (see below the main text through the link above, and quoted here, below). We had left a comment, to which he replied, "Steve S, you have Charlie Manson eyes." This puzzled us a bit, but our suspicion led us to Google ourselves; and lo, we found an evidential trail connecting the BFE author to the BIGFOOT DISCUSSIONS Board, the true home and den of Bigfooting iniquity of THE JIMITES. Yes, all of those nasties, for the most part anyway, have retreated back to this boggy hollow (if not the JREF). In any case, The BFE had also said this: "One gorilla is a blogger that one week says he is done with the politics and drama and the next week is right back in it." This statement, referring to us, was also a clue. The implication is of bipolar indecision or emotional extremism (which we do NOT suffer from), and was confirmed as sourced from the Jimite faction on the BFD Board, where we were not only compared to Manson, but also called "BipolarBigfootBoy." Talk about our blog (and person) on the Jimite-dominated BFD started a week before the BFE blog entry, culminating on the presentation of Manson photos (compared to us) on the BFD on the SAME DAY as on the Bigfootery Enquirer. OUR CONCLUSION?? BFE IS A JIMITE, or at least sources heavily from that discussion board. We think many of his "stringer" sources are also Jimites. With only 750 total members on the BFD, surely mostly inactive and non-posting, it should be a piece of cake to identify the screen name and posts of the BFE author. We will be looking....

BFD: The Last Great Mystery, i.e., Why Are Some People
in Bigfooting Compelled to be Such Jerks?
Serious? Seriously... BAD.
Look at the members role of the BFD forum and you'll see a lot of familiar names from the old BFF: Teresa, RedWolf, MasterBarber, etc., etc.

The thing is, we did satire based upon something real: their behavior in the past, and their recent conduct on the BFF. It was all clear as day, right there in the discussion threads, how absurdly in violation of the original spirit of the BFF they were acting. What do we get as a return salvo from the so-called Jimites? Mocking implications that we are "psycho," and attempts to get under our skin (or rather, make themselves, low as they are, feel better) by making fun of how our eyes look. We can't help it if they feel uncomfortable with our gaze, as it really is the truth they are afraid of, their reflection of their own composite visage that we throw back at them. Anyway, that googly-eyed photo was meant to be... funny, you freaks.
Jimite Jim's OWN self-
representation on the BFD.
Who needs satire when this is
how they show themselves?

There are no Jimites, really. As a matter of fact, it's all dark. They are all just a loose confederacy of TROLLS.

Do we really "believe" in the "Jimite" conspiracy? NO. Obviously, there is safety in numbers for cowards and snark-masters; and yes, they have done great kinds of damage to the Bigfooting community in the past. But do they have any real power of effect? No longer. Are they some kind of grand Illuminati? Hardly. It is more like a dive bar down the road from the trailer park. They all hang out there, sharing their squalor. We hope to dispense with them from here on out as NOT WORTHY OF OUR ATTENTION.

Read the relevant thread on the BFD here:
and focus around here:

Examples of slander from the BFD posts:

From "Masterbarber": Loren has "issues" and everyone knows it.
Amen and anyone who had doubts about that probably doesn't after reading his latest re-posting of rumors from America's favorite internet sh*t rag- BipolarBigfootBoy's blog.

"Ty" Avatar on BFD

"Ty" on BFD
From "Ty": "Those eyes just scream mental patient....LOL"

Now, it is one thing to satirically comment on the behavior of some annoying trolls on an internet forum, as we did; but it is another thing altogether to actually come out and say someone is a "mental patient" or is "bipolar." As these are NOT TRUE (we have never been institutionalized, nor ever needed the help of the field of Psychiatry), these statements go beyond jokes to real, legal slander. Ah well, we don't really care, you wankers.

What we did on our blog was like a POLITICAL CARTOON. If you know how those work, their effect is achieved by exaggeration of features or situations for a comical but also critical result. They are a form of commentary. Though it did make us chuckle to see the Manson thing, really, to accuse us of having problems of psychological health and specific disorders goes beyond that. It is not only petty, but also slanderous. Having NOTHING productive to say in response to our criticisms, and obviously incapable of doing so intelligently, the BIGFOOT DISCUSSIONS folks can only get cheap jabs in, not a pertinent response nor an acceptable excuse for their sorry behavior on the BFF. Oh well.

Read the "controversial" CRYPTOMUNDO article posted by Loren Coleman here:
BFF Shenanigans Unmasked.

BFE: Fake BF Statue Standing
in the Mud?
THE BIGFOOTERY ENQUIRER RUNS AND HIDES, and then Returns. We Feel a Tiny Blip of Disturbance in The Force.

NOTE: All the clues you need to figure out whom SquatchDetective, Steve Kulls, has concluded is the anonymous author of this blog are contained below. Only the true BF insider will know what it all means.

The heat was on, with Steve Kulls announcing to us back in very early August that he knew who was the author of the Bigfootery Enquirer gossip blog. We investigated it too, and we're not 100% sure Kulls is right. There were subtle signs on the BFE blog, though, that he was getting a bit cagey and defensive, all while leaving odd clues in a "Treasure Hunt" to tempt his readers to discover his location and perhaps identity. Building up the heat, Kulls invited us to appear on his show along with Henry May to discuss this odd blog and its mystery author.

Our appearance on Steve Kull's SQUATCHDETECTIVE show on BlogTalkRadio, September 6th, 2010: BIGFOOTERY ENQUIRER
Listen to it and the context will become more clear.

After that show, where Kull's decided NOT to out the blog author, we started taunting him a bit on the Comments section of his blog. This came right after Brian Vargo said to BFE, "YOU ARE AN IDIOT." Anyway, we tried to be a bit more civil. Here is a transcript of the comments and the brief BFE replies:

S. on September 7, 2010 at 12:22 pm: Mr. Clay, is that you?

Manson Foot? Or just a reflection of
Jimite paranoia?
[BFE] We Reply: Steve S, you have Charlie Manson eyes. Trying to shut down places with contrary points of view is unamerican, and scary.

Steve says: (Your comment is awaiting moderation.) September 10, 2010 at 7:30 am
Huh? I didn’t try to “shut down” anyone. Those dogs came after me! All I did was point out the lack of civility and fairness on that site, the hypocrisy of their “rules,” violated by administrators. What single view can the BFF be said to have, anyway? I don't try to shut down views, just BS. Oh, and thanks for that kind thing about the eyes. If you were not so cowardly perhaps I could make fun of the shape of your nose?

We [BFE] reply: And this is just parody, sarcasm, hyperbole or something other that what you really think, right?
From your blog: "Perhaps this conspiracy and the coming documentary he’s [Kitakaze] supposedly making can be shut down just like all of us stopped the Bluff Creek Massacre theory in its bloody tracks before they could make books and films based on it. If not, watch out Kit–the Gimlin Guard is coming to get you! Mooohaaahahhahaaa."

Humorous and goofy profile image
we used on Facebook. Do we really
look like Charlie Manson? Making a
funny face does not make one crazy.
Steve says: (Your comment is awaiting moderation.) September 10, 2010 at 7:32 am
Manson? Such a high level of discourse over here! What is this, elementary school?

Steve says: (Your comment is awaiting moderation.) September 10, 2010 at 7:36 am
Sorry if my intensity scares you, Gregg.

So, protest is "un-American"? What about the Revolution this country was founded upon? What about the Civil Rights Movement? Should they have shut up and not said anything, too? "Scary"? Only to those hiding in the shadows behind anonymous screen names and blogs. Only to those who cannot conduct themselves within the confines of ethical discussion. What I did was point out the problems, with some satire; and lo, the place changed, hopefully for the better. A success, unmitigated!
I dare you to publish this. I will. Anyway, I was the one who said some good things about BFE on Kulls' show. Keep up the good parts of what you do, it's fine with me.

on September 14, 2010 at 8:36 am | Reply Steven Streufert, Bigfoot's bLog
Discrediting a bogus theory like the “Bluff Creek Massacre” is not censorship; it is more like peer review. No? If Kitakaze’s documentary trying to debunk the PGF hinges upon the flawed stories of Bob Heironimus, then it, too, will fall by the wayside as Bigfootery detritus. If he is able to actually prove something as fact with real evidence beyond tall tales and speculative imagination, then more power to him. Yes, at times I do use exaggeration and satire on my blog, for effect, and I assume my readers are smart enough to identify the distinction.
Look at this with googly crossed Manson eyes and you might just see
the cool 3-D effect! Click to Enlarge.
Oddly enough, the BFE actually published most of the above. The site normally does not let many comments through save by those written by its own cronies, or when a joking attack may be made upon the comments' author.

Then a strange thing happened. The blog became PRIVATE, requiring an invitation to read it, along with a user name and password. Very strange! What was going on here? Was he chicken? Couldn't he handle the heat? Well, we still don't really know. He came back a few days later chuckling about it all. We suppose he's just playing what he thinks is a clever game. Well, we're glad the blog is back up and running, as it is one more crazy wheel turning in the weird machine of Bigfootery. We're always up for more of the strange, even if it is a bit nasty. At least the BFE has a sense of humor, which, decidedly, the Jimites DO NOT!

So folks, let's laugh about the silly stuff, and get on with the better things in life.

[DID YOU GUESS THE BFE IDENTITY FROM THE CLUES ABOVE??? What do you think? Is that the right guy, or not?]

BFF UPDATE: Are Things Going Sour Already on the "New" Bigfoot Forums?
Vargo's Facebook Avatar
On Facebook one of our Bigfooting online friends voiced his concern about the BFF, and told the story of how he has already been "WARNED." This, he says, was for standing up to the negativism of skeptics and skoffers.We hope things have not gone bad already; but these days we have been reluctant to get back into Forums lurking ourselves. We quote:

Brian Vargo says: "The BFF should be renamed ... the BSF: big skeptic forum. I may be warned for this post too. Maybe Mr. green or Mr. purple will warn me??? Whatever you do... do not make any derogatory statements to a skeptic on that forum no matter how many they make to you. And by all means do not indicate you believe in BF on the BFF, You may be warned.

I made the mistake of letting the skeptics get the best of me. Sat there patiently reading sarcastic derogatory stabs at believers. Had enough so i just made a comment that the BFF is called the BFF for a reason. its about bf. and the skeptics are getting in the way of good bf discussion. I made the suggestion they go to the JREF and beat their chests. MISTAKE. Think mod. Mr. green and Mr. purple are skeptics themselves. They didn't raise my "warn" level, however i was told they would not tolerate such rhetoric. Wonder if the scoftics are getting the same attention. LOL for some reason I don't think so. I may just be a whine bag to. oh well. Speaking my mind only gets me in trouble Steven. :( Didn't even call them idiots... LOL, i just said they may be a little ignorant to the subject since they are so quick to down everything. As the Go-Go's once said...."My Lips are Sealed" :|

NOTE: Vargo is fairly new to the Bigfooting pursuit, but he has already drawn ire from some of the nabobs. After calling the BIGFOOTERY ENQUIRER an "Idiot" he even got a BFE blog entry all his own. Read it here: A Big Thank You to Brian Vargo

From this blog's COMMENTS on past entries:

Anonymous said...
Hello my name is angela. im in colleage and i am writting a paper on a Persuvive speach. Iv been using a lot of jeff meldrums sites and info becasue he provides the largest amount of proof i can find. im tring to include encounters and believers. my biggest issue with this is that i have to answer the question why. why should people care weither he exists or not. For scientific reasons i can think of many but for the average person i am struggling. how would you answer this question?
September 18, 2010 5:41 PM

Yours Truly, at the ATL
Sasquatch Film Night,
photo by Bob Doran.
Steven Streufert said...
Angela, as they say about climbing Mt. Everest--because it is there! Why should people care? Well, they should care about the realities of their world, the universe they live in, every bit as much as they care about stupid things like American Idol. Sadly, the "average person" does not really care, a lot of them, and the world spins on without them. We should care, as if Bigfoot is proven to be real it will be an utterly devastating blow to the false sense that humanity has that it dominates and understands the world. Obviously, we are helpless before most of the fundamental realities of existence. Bigfoot, on the other hand, demonstrates freedom, strength, independence, and the Mysterious.

PLUS, A "Mr. Mike" Backyard Bigfoot Update!

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "BIGFOOT WARS 2: The Mr. Mike Debacle, CryptoMundo ...":

"We investigated the Mr. Mike story after contact with Lan. Mike is a nice man with Night Blindness and an active imagination. He is very lonely and there are absolutely is no way there could be a Sasquatch, much less ten in his backyard. He started to cry when he realized he was seeing things. He needs medical attention and not to be exploited by a talk show host for ratings."

BIGFOOT painting courtesy of the
Genius of Eureka, JESSE WIEDEL

We offer you the following for fun. If you ever find yourself on a Bigfoot forum with nothing nice to say, or nothing about Bigfoot in your brain, just post some or all of this. It's Great! You don't even have to think of a logical response... just copy and paste!

(Found in a very old folder on our computer, we could not find out its original context nor source.)

"You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As they say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.
You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon. You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.
I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformation. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?
Try to edit your responses of unnecessary blather before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to all, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.
You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.
Master-satirist,brilliant nutcase,
Manson mocks straight society.
You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.
And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?
You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.
On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.
You smarmy lager-lout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry piss-head cock-up pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.
You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad hair. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away.
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel."

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  1. Great read Steven. Charlie Manson eyes!!! LOL. All they can produce are cheap shots. Oh well. At least you can see the truth with your eyes. I keep hearing that song in my head...Betty Davis Eyes... We could rewrite the lyrics and make it, "charlie manson eyes" to the same music. Got some funny ideas on that... Then we could send them a coppy. LOL. Take Care!
    Brian Vargo aka:mizzousquatchn

  2. Charles Manson never looked normal.
    That's because he is not normal.
    He is an insane idiot who has done nothing but make a fool of himself.
    Too bad he was not sent to the gas chamber.
    If anyone deserves to die, it is Manson.

    George Vreeland Hill

  3. Yah, Put him and us out of misery Gas or hang him. He's sub human. Makes bigfoot look good.


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