Monday, September 21, 2015

BLUFF CREEK NOW OPEN AGAIN. Nickowitz Fire Still Burning, but Now Mostly Contained.

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NEWS FLASH:
BLUFF CREEK NOW OPEN AGAIN!

Just in time to be open for a couple of weeks or so before the seasonal Fall closure (technically set for October 1st, if it starts raining), Bluff Creek is open again. The Nickowitz Fire has moved west and north, and is mostly contained. At one point it came to about half a mile from the PGF site, and easily could have burned through the creek basin had the winds changed and blown it down from Lonesome Ridge (see image below). Here are the current orders for closure around Blue Creek, Nickowitz Peak, the upper G-O Road, Onion Lake area, and the edges of the Siskiyou Willderness. Bluff Creek via 12N10 is apparently impossible, but access can be had through the lower G-O Road, Slate Creek Road, or Cedar Camp Road. It appears that Fish Lake/Onion Mountain ("Bluff Creek Road") is closed at the top, before Onion Lake and Onion Mountain. So, access to the PGF site and Louse Camp is only possible from the northern/eastern side.

Merv George, head of Six Rivers National Forest, and friend of Bluff Creek Project, signed the new orders a few days ago. Click the images to enlarge and read them.




This image shows just how close the fire burned to the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot film site, indicated by rule and red dot at right.

Nickowitz Fire Line, in mid-August, near BLuff Creek.
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GET UPDATES ON THE FIRE DAILY HERE:
http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/4466/

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Friday, September 11, 2015

Nickowitz Fire Still Burning above Bluff Creek and Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot Film Site

NEWS FLASH:

Burning since lightning struck on August 1st, the Nickowitz Fire is still active right above the historic Bluff Creek Bigfoot area. It burned within only a half a mile of the Patterson-Gimlin Film Site, as you may see in the following graphic. This was the closest the fire burned, in mid-late August.

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Currently the fire has been largely contained, but is still active in hot, dry conditions, with occasional winds coming off the coast to the inland. It will likely burn until the first heavy rains of fall. Here is the current official ops map for Sept. 11th. The PGF site is a small red dot to the right.


Bluff Creek itself remains closed, with heavy penalties if you go up there (so don't). The roads away from the fire and the creek basin, The G-O Road to 12N12, Slate Creek, and Cedar Camp are still open, as is the Fish Lake/Onion Mountain (Bluff Creek) Road up almost to Onion Lake (which latter is in the closure zone).

Here is the map detailing the road/area closures that are still in effect indefinitely.

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Friday, August 21, 2015

BLUFF CREEK CLOSED INDEFINITELY DUE TO FIRE THREAT NEAR THE PGF SITE

NEWS FLASH!

Bluff Creek has been closed, and the PGF site is under threat with fire burning within about a mile of the historic location. Due to the NICKOWITZ FIRE burning in Six Rivers National Forest and at the edge of the Siskiyou Wilderness, Bluff Creek is now closed indefinitely in all of the upper watershed area and surrounding ridges and ridge and basin roads. This fire is burning just west of the Patterson-Gimlin film site and the location of the cameras deployed by BLUFF CREEK FILM SITE PROJECT.
Click to enlarge map. Note location of P-G film site at lower right of fire perimeter.

A slighly older satellite view of the area showing status last week.
Get updates on the fire incident here:
The USFS closure order. Click to Enlarge.
Click to Enlarge map.
Obtain the PDF files of the alert notice on this fire here:
http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/srnf/alerts-notices

Here's a Google Earth view of the Film Site to lower right, and the fire edge along 12N01 Road to upper right. Just count the trees. It's very close to the site.
CURRENT UPDATE:
"Overnight humidity on the fire increased to levels much higher than in the past several days. Today a light inversion is expected to lift in the late morning. Steady progress is being made on line construction. Holding and securing the Soapstone Gulch area on the south flank is a priority for Friday as is holding and securing the west flank. Partly sunny skies with areas of smoke is expected for today. The fire is currently 4,818 acres. Please remember that there is a temporary forest closure in place around the Nicowitz fire including a portion of the Siskiyou Wilderness. All roads and trails within the closure area will be restricted to authorized personnel only until the fire is declared out."
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Members of the Bluff Creek Project visited the area above the film site and all the way back to the end of the G-O Road at Elk Valley on Sunday and Monday, camping at Bean's Camp, just before the closure order. We could not get down to the PGF site without violating the "Road Closed" sign at the top of 12N13.
Leiterman holding down the law at the 12N13 gate road closure, 
above Bluff Creek and the PGF site. 
Smoke from the fire is seen behind him, Sunday evening.




Here is the view down into the Bluff Creek headwaters, toward the film site, on Sunday evening.





The Gasquet Complex fire burning near Doctor Rock as seen from Elk Valley.

HERE'S HOPING HISTORY WON'T BURN.
In any case, our cameras should survive, and that could produce some very interesting photos and video of animals and maybe even the site burning.

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Thursday, August 13, 2015

Kelly Shaw of RMSO is Extremely Jealous, and Dense. His Baseless and Stupid Attacks on Bluff Creek Project

A Demonstration of Just How Much of an Idiot Kelly Shaw Really Is
He runs the Rocky Mountain Sasquatch Organization, which is just him, his kid, his wife, and one friend with an obsession with toy helicopters. His videos on YouTube are among the most ridiculous "field research" activities we've ever seen. Wherever Kelly goes, something gets named after Bigfoot, and Sasquatch "evidence" is found literally EVERYWHERE. In every depression in the ground he sees a track, and he sees Bigfoot activity in every broken branch or pile of sticks. He is the darling of clickbait blog, BIGFOOT EVIDENCE, where he gets free advertisement. He does all of this to get .002 cents per view on YouTube. I guess it's worth it to him. Recently, he's gotten worse. He now sees orbs on trail cameras, and Bigfoot blobsquatches in every shadow. Here is a fine example. THIS is his idea of Bigfoot, and he even says "It looks like a real person." Are you kidding me??

And now, out of sheer jealousy, he has been attacking the BLUFF CREEK PROJECT. Lacking anything like a real criticism, he just makes things up, or exaggerates from a bit of speculative thinking that Jamie, a group member, did on a webcast (see link below). He has posted this kind of crud and lies in at least 12 Facebook Bigfooting groups that we know of, and likely many more that are closed or unknown to us. He gets all of his friends to give our videos a "thumb down" on YouTube. How childish. This is OBSESSION. What a fragile ego. What a hothead. What a fool. What's most funny is that none of it is even TRUE. Rather than belabor any defense of a project that really needs no defense, I'll just copy and paste this little battle with the nitwit from the YouTube page for that video. 
Have fun! 
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Kelly Shaw
 commented on a video on YouTube.

Shared publicly  -  Jul 15, 2015
Wait a minute? What do you mean you want to get to the point where you can pay a grad student to do your Bigfooting? To service game cameras? 1st of all that is a poor use of donations and 2nd. You cant call your self a researcher if you have delusions of grandure and are going to pay someone to Bigfoot for you. What a joke. Lets start a Bigfoot organization, call our selves experts and stay at home while someone does our Bigfooting for us. Couldn't contain myself on that statement guys. I am sure that isn't your end goal. Keep on squatching fellas.



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Steven Streufert

Jul 20, 2015
+Kelly Shaw You imbecile.That's not even what we plan do do. Kelly Shaw is just factually wrong. The idea that Jamie expresses in that interview is that we have some 20 cameras and growing, and we'd like to expand the project into new areas. To do this, the idea is to get a few affiliate wildlife biology students who might want to take on an area of their own near our current project spots. For them this could be good experience with a real wildlife field study, as well as a little money to get through school. We fully intend to continue to do our own areas in the Project. However, it can't just go on forever necessarily, as people's lives change. The idea then is to diversify the Project and to assure its continuity. Shaw is just jealous. I never saw him using trail cameras and quadcopters until long after we were using them in Bluff Creek. He thinks doing real research is some kind of competition, when it is not. It's about intelligent use of proper scientific methods and field application, with critical thinking about the results, without the constant assumption that every sign in the woods is from a Bigfoot.


Steven Streufert

Jul 20, 2015

+Kelly Shaw What of the Project grows to have some fifty cameras? Wouldn't that be cool? Obviously, to do that we'd have to take on new affiliates or members. We all have jobs, kids, families, or school, and can't spend all of our time tending to trail cameras. To grow, participating members need to be added. I've seen Kelly Shaw with maybe two cameras. How many does he have? Why is he so jealous when it's obvious that he is copying our project as inspiration for his own field efforts? What he should be saying is, "Thanks."

Steven Streufert

Jul 20, 2015
+Kelly Shaw Truth and reality don't care about egotistical propaganda. That is all that Kelly Shaw has, that and his self-defensive temper. He can find no valid criticism of Bluff Creek Project, so he just makes sh*t up. The fact is, he is just mad because Jamie commented on his latest blobsquatch photo, saying, "Someone left the gate open at the funny farm." Jealousy and anger are NOT how proper scientific research is done.


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+Steven Streufert Hello Ladies, I see you brought the same crew that holds your hand when you go to the restroom. 1st of all, you want a little respect from me, don't talk down to me or throw names around. Or you wont ever get a smidgen of respect from me that you certainly do not deserve. 2nd of all, because you are out there mooching off of the 47 year old P&G success don't expect automatic respect from me or anyone else. Your going to have to earn it bug eye boy. I have no problem with you begging for donations from the Bigfoot community, but when one of your girlfriends spouts off about your delusions of grandeur to pay someone to do it for you, because its hard. It takes like 5 hours. Wha!. I don't care to hear you ladies cry. There is no crying in Bigfooting. I have thick skin and can take the bashing from you girls. But don't expect respect in return over your bullying and name calling. I would prefer to smash you in the nose than sit and listen to you wine. When you all decide to grow up and get some balls and start treating others with a little dignity and respect. Perhaps we can chat then. Make sure you gals keep your skirts hiked up while Bigfooting, would hate to see you get mud on your hems.


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You have gone crazy, I know I struck a cord of truth with you getting all bent out of shape. I know the welfare checks must not be enough so you insist on mooching off of Patterson & Gimlin success and take your cardboard sign & collection hat to the Bigfoot community. I don't need to beg for a dime, I can pay for my equipment and expeditions on my own. However I do have a job and do not have to rely on assistance from the State. 


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I did some checking around and noticed that you, your team nor anyone of the members of your team has a permit to do what you do in a National Forest. I pay for my permits, why don't you all have yours? I think if someone contacted the proper authorities about not following through on getting a permit, your whole operation may screetch to a halt.


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Would you like me to email you a copy of my latest permit to film in a National Forest. I am sure the cost will put your welfare relying ass into a state of shock. You want to talk about Science. Real scientists go through proper channels and get proper permits to do "research".


BluffCreekProject

Jul 20, 2015

+Kelly Shaw Looks like someone left the gate open at the funny farm...


BluffCreekProject

Jul 20, 2015
+Kelly Shaw Why the hatred? We have been doing good research and work for the past four years. We have successfully located and mapped the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot film site. We only work there because we live there. We're not Bigfoot hunters we're just enthusiasts, scientists, and historians. We are not trying to emulate professionals, we are professionals, each of us holds a science degree, and Steven holds a masters. We have been lucky enough to have other people who are interested in the site to help us purchase lithium batteries for the cameras. Some people even donate whole cameras. We don't need permits for what we are currently doing and have had many sit down with the park service. We have even led a group of their lead scientists and rangers to the site to document it. Next year they are going to start working on an official trail to the site so we are going to start helping the park to raise the funds to do that as well. You should come out here to Humboldt County and see the site for yourself. We freely publish the location. I'm sure one of our big cats would love to meet you.


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OK, Einstein. May want to get that ego in check.
  Guess you are too much into your self to notice we have dozens of photos and vids of Mountain Lions too. Dime a dozen, we have upwards of 5,000 in the last wildlife census in the North part of our State alone. No big deal.
 Good luck with your project, wouldn't want to derail something like this. It needs to be done, however I will be the 1st to kick you in the nuts and let you know that your ego and lack of respect for people will ultimately lead to your demise.
 If you had some manners and a little humility our team would of already purchased a few game cameras for you by now. Perhaps you should have someone manage this project that has a little charisma and or charm.


BluffCreekProject

Jul 21, 2015
+Kelly Shaw Looks like someone keeps leaving the gate open at the funny farm...


Kelly Shaw

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Yes it does and now he lives in a little pathetic bookstore.


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+Kelly Shaw bro he gets his books late at night behind the public library just look inside one ....and the project  well i bet if ya located all the cameras they have put out i bet there probably within a square mile of each other these assholes have become the $$$$$$$$$$$$ sucking ticks on the back of a drop dead good looking gal named Patty she stepped in to our lives from big screen and became an instant movie star    mysterious elusive and sought out by many
 and she did it in one take with that look back as if to say this wont happen again. and walked in to history. so many amazed by her.   go to the site now .look around and you will see there are no sasquatch . there now so many people go in and out of there now.
and the one`s getting $$$$$$ will always throw sticks at your spoke`s   don`nt even respond to them Kelly you need all of your
attention on the sas you guys are a class act Kelly those guys are an ass act don`t lower your self to there level cause if ya do you have to breath there shit...     trolls be trollin
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Steven Streufert

Aug 11, 2015
+Kelly Shaw Total funny farm. And no, I don't live in my bookstore. What do you have against books, Shaw? Oh, that's right, you're an ignoramus and a fool. And also, you are a liar. You're obviously just jealous of us and our Project and our fine area of research. If you really want to prove yourself so badly, go out and do something worthy. Sitting here ranting on YouTube and all over Facebook groups is getting you nowhere. People see you for what you are, and so you defeat yourself.


Steven Streufert

Aug 11, 2015
+don engelmeier You are wrong, Don. Do the facts matter to you? I guess not. You're just here to spew a bunch of putrid hurl all over the place, further proving that the Bigfoot community is insane and likely Bigfoot is just a deranged fantasy of warped minds. You're doing no good for Bigfooting, and certainly not for your Buddy Kelly Shaw, as your pathetic attempt at criticism only reflects back upon you. FACTS: no, I don't get all my books behind the public library. Liar. FACT: We don't "get" any $$$$$ at all... all funds are put into camera implementation, and in fact anyone who supports a camera in full out there always has the option of requesting it sent to them when its field time is done. This is a publicly funded, open, transparent, non-egotistical, objective project. Have you any comprehension of that? It's how wildlife surveys are done. It's how science is done. FACT: Actually, there are constant reports of Bigfoot activity in Bluff Creek, and there have been going back to before the Europeans came here. Clearly, you're just jealous of our wonderful research area. FACT: Trolls be trollin'? Yeah, like YOU. Like Kelly Shaw, who has posted troll posts based upon misconceptions and full of lies all over the internet, posting in over 12 Facebook groups we know of in just one day. THAT is pathetic, and it is trolling. We aren't the ones on the attack. HE is. We're just doing our own thing, and Kellyboy should really get back to doing something more worthy with his time.


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+Steven Streufert Would you rather live in lies and errors, or know the truth? Listen in here ( https://youtu.be/gCdk6Jl65Ec?t=40m17s ) on this video at the 40 minute mark to hear what Jamie Wayne really said about possible, hypothetical development of the Bluff Creek Project in the fairly distant future. You can see he in no way says we're paying anyone to "Squatch for us" as Kelly Shaw likes to say. Jamie mentions a possibility of hiring on grad students or getting a professional biologist involved, IF we were to receive some big funding grant from "Uncle So and So," which would be either a private support donation (like Wally Hersom, or someone like that) or a government or academic grant of some kind. In NO WAY does this idea relate to current cameras implemented or any of the funding that comes from the Indiegogo page. So, the fact is, Mr. Shaw is ranting and raving about NOTHING. Tune in to the 45 minute mark to hear what is really being done with the current funding and operations.


don engelmeier

Yesterday 11:48 AM

+Steven Streufert maybe we should all lay off and chill there are no trolls about i apologize Steven for jumping in on this i like the R M S O and i know they are a good bunch i tend to try and stick up for  what i like 


Steven Streufert

Yesterday 2:08 PM
+don engelmeier Try to be OBJECTIVE. It is Kelly Shaw who is on the attack, without cause, simply out of jealousy and a need for vengeance. "Liking" someone shouldn't bias you against the truth and reality.


Kelly Shaw

Yesterday 3:05 PM

Wow. You still have your panties up in a bunch? Best way to get over it, is to pull your big girl pants up and get out there and look for Bigfoot. That will show every one Stevie. Oh thats right. Its hard. It takes like five hours. Ok well go ahead and pay someone to do it for you with donations you have begged for. That might make you get over this little bump in the road too.


Steven Streufert

Yesterday 3:14 PM

You imbecile. Go back and listen to what was ACTUALLY said. YOU, Kellyboy, are the one going around in all the Facebook groups whining like a little infant. Grow up, and just do your own thing, rather than lying about us.


Steven Streufert

Yesterday 3:18 PM

You have NO valid point of criticism. It was only an HYPOTHETICAL IDEA of what might be done at some time in the future. Jamie mentions a possibility of hiring on grad students or getting a professional biologist involved, IF we were to receive some big funding grant from "Uncle So and So," which would be either a private support donation (like Wally Hersom, or someone like that) or a government or academic grant of some kind. In NO WAY does this idea relate to current cameras implemented or any of the funding that comes from the Indiegogo page. So, the fact is, Mr. Shaw is ranting and raving about NOTHING. You cannot criticize this Project at all in any valid and legitimate way, so you misread his statements and create a bunch of fictional lies. WHY? BECAUSE YOU'RE A PETTY, LITTLE JEALOUS MAN.


Kelly Shaw

Yesterday 3:19 PM

Jamie said your plans were to pay someone to do your Bigfoot field work for you, you then boringly elaborated about it later on. Me pointing out this little tid bit of information is a lie? You run around throwing a tantrum, calling me dozens of names over a truthful statement. I believe we all know who needs to become rational and grow up here Stevie. Now go call your mom so she can give you some advise on how to play nice.


Steven Streufert

Yesterday 3:25 PM

NO. That is to potentially EXPAND the Project, if someone or some academic institution grants the funds for it. It is NOT what we are doing now, and there are NO plans to stop the core Bluff Creek activities that we have going. You are LYING about that, or you are too dense to understand the English language. I'm not sure which one it is, but probably it is both. It is not a truthful statement you are making, and YOU are the one "running around" everywhere obsessed with us and crying your bullshit to the wind. Everyone thinks you are an idiot now, and it is only made worse by your stupid actions.


Steven Streufert

Yesterday 3:29 PM
+Steven Streufert Go and listen to the video above AGAIN. Jamie says MAYBE IN LIKE TWO YEARS, IF THE PROJECT WERE TO GET A SPECIAL DONATION. We are currently doing our own work, and that will continue indefinitely. We MIGHT expand the Project to include faculty and grad students at the University. This only adds more scientific background and legitimacy. This would only be to EXPAND the project into new areas. I've said this stuff to you a hundred times. Why are you so dense that you cannot just listen and comprehend the reality of the situation. Clearly, you don't want to. All you want is your propaganda lies to go and spew in every Facebook group that will have you. Pathetic, childish competition and jealousy. That is all there is to it, Shaw.

Kelly Shaw


2:56 PM
 Hey weak sauce. No apologies if the strait up hard core truth hurts your feelers. I tell it like it is and since you went off on the band wagon of tossing childish names around, I will call it how I see it. You are simply a mooch. you mooch off of the Patterson/Gimlin success, you use that to mooch donations from the Bigfoot community and now you admit your game plan is to pay someone else to do your project for you. Because its hard and takes too long. Clearly a master minded mooch in progress. To each their own. If someone wants to hand over their hard earned cash to someone trying to ride the coat tails of two hard working men. And has admitted its too hard and they need to pay someone else to get some kind of glory for them. I see through your corruption Steven.  


Steven Streufert

3:15 PM
KELLY SHAW, calling you an idiot is a simple fact, and not "name-calling." Your obsessive "criticism" is illegitimate and false. I've explained this endlessly to you here, but oh no, you won't listen. And now you're blocking me here in the most cowardly way AFTER making your imbecilic comments. How bold of you. I'll just have to repost my comments to you on the main area. NO, you're wrong. We aren't going to pay anyone to do anything for us. You have seen the explanation of what Jamie meant, and the fact that you still don't acknowledge the actual facts and the truth of the matter shows that you are simply full of crap, you are in denial, or you're just trying to spread a lie for propaganda. Go ahead, keep lying, Shaw. 

You said, which is stupid and false:
"Hey weak sauce. No apologies if the strait up hard core truth hurts your feelers. I tell it like it is and since you went off on the band wagon of tossing childish names around, I will call it how I see it. You are simply a mooch. you mooch off of the Patterson/Gimlin success, you use that to mooch donations from the Bigfoot community and now you admit your game plan is to pay someone else to do your project for you. Because its hard and takes too long. Clearly a master minded mooch in progress..."
Steven Streufert 3:32 PM
Can you actually READ, Kelly Shaw? Did you actually see what the facts are, all above? And, in regard to "mooching"... I've not touched a single penny of the funding money. Jamie handles all of that, and all of it, plus a lot of his own money (not to mention time, gas, and everything else we pay for ourselves) goes into trail cameras and supplies for them. What point do you have that is actually legitimate? NOT A SINGLE ONE. Do you know what a hypothetical idea is? It is something considered as a possibility only. Listen to the damn interview at 40 minutes or so and you can clearly see that Jamie said that only as a possibility two years or more in the future, and also only if we were to get some kind of large grant. Like I said, all the other functions we do in the Project would continue regardless, so you are just plain wrong. You should really just shut your trap, as every time you speak everyone can see what a fool you are.

Kelly Shaw 3:33 PM
You are back pedaling and lying because I called you out on your future plans with the P/G site. No need for me to take in your Bullshit captain dipshit

Steven Streufert, 4:00 PM
NO I AM NOT. THAT WAS ONLY SPECULATIVE AND CONTINGENT THINKING ON JAMIE'S PART. WE AREN'T ACTUALLY DOING THAT, AND DON'T HAVE ANY SOLID PLAN TO DO THAT. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND, KNUCKLEHEAD?

Kelly Shaw
Yesterday 4:18 PM
Throwing the knucklehead bomb helped me understand your whole explanation Steven. No solid plan. That's alright, those of us that do are out looking for Bigfoot. Stay at home, pay someone to get out there and possibly get you some glory. All good my friend. I am sure folks will line up by the 100's to get paid to Bigfoot. Guarantee you will have a stack of resume's.

mary jagielski
Yesterday 9:56 PM
+Steven Streufert how about rev if you and your dr of pseudoscience have the funds and like a story by all means send one. me and snowwalker are two locations so there you go, or get uncle wally the wallet to cough it up. can yall hear me i keep saying location location location, the thing about my story is i live outside a major city so its easy access. the prints will tell you its a patty type man from the front only and giant black spyder monkey from the side a tribe of people who lives by your local creek as close to a river as possible. this mountain funding is ok but not necessary its too hard to get there if its not necessary anymore and the prints say its not always necessary why put all your cameras in one location when the newest print should get one first. snowalker n k heard a biggie and rock clacking i heard a pig squeal in response to me both happened on the 4th of july so there you go. light your rolled sage and clear out the shit in this room, did you get your sweat lodge yet. your move big boy-its a knocker

don engelmeier
12:49 AM
it add`s a lot to your credibility when you put your boots to the ground and do your own field work at least you can be sure of your findings but there is a side to this that`s the due diligence equipment,permits,team safety,this and much more . makes Kelly Shaw ie.RMSO a team to emulate ........

Steven Streufert
1:09 PM
+don engelmeier Like I said, Don, that is what we do, and have done in Bluff Creek since 2007. Kelly Shaw's accusations are completely false and spurious. I suggest you try viewing some of our nearly 80 videos on the Bluff Creek Film Site Project and our current trail camera results here on YouTube. Drop Bluff Creek Project into the search box, why don't you. If Kelly Shaw and RMSO do some good work in the field, well, good for them. You're not going to see US getting jealous and posting falsehoods all across the internet based upon one speculative and hypothetical statement made in a webcast when speaking about the potential distant future.

Steven Streufert
1:11 PM
+mary jagielski What in the world are you talking about?

Steven Streufert
1:25 PM
+Kelly Shaw knuckle head
Someone of limited intelligence and with a mean nature. Who prefers using their knuckles/fists, to using their head.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/knucklehead
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=knucklehead

Kelly Shaw
1:36 PM
Duesch bag. Someone who mooches off of the 47 year old Patterson Gimlin success by using it to mooch dontations from the bigfoot community. Yet wants someone else to do the work so he can enjoy the lazy spot light of his ill claimed glory. Face it Steven you are a mooch. Simply a mooch. Look that up in your dictionary smart guy. You leach upon the hard work of Patterson Gimlin success. Truely a low life Steven. Your a mooch.

Steven Streufert
5:41 PM
Shaw, why do you persist? You're just making yourself look like an obsessed maniac. There's hardly any point in talking with you, as you don't even listen to the facts. "Mooch"? How so? I've never touched a penny of that money. Not a freaking cent. Jamie had the idea for a public research project that involves anyone who would like to participate. The cameras are owned by the people funding them if they want them back at any time. Donations for batteries and such are freely given by those enthusiastic about the idea and eager to see the results. We've spent far more time in Bluff Creek than Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin ever did. For me, it's just a part of local history, and I've been studying it since 1999. What's your problem now? That we've actually done good and interesting things in studying the history of the area, and now are documenting the wildlife there? What's wrong with that, buddy? Look at yourself... you have no case at all. You're just running at the mouth. How is it any different that you read some sighting report on BFRO or wherever, and then go there and "mooch off their success" in making videos for YouTube pennies? It's not different. The big difference is that for you it is all about you, about your ego, and your need to prove yourself. We are just doing objective research, and it is about finding the facts, whatever they are. It certainly isn't for personal gain in any way, nor is it about trying to prove how awesome we are. You should consider that you're just plain wrong. Do a fact check. Jamie speculating about the future is not actually a fact, but just an idea. It's his idea, like the idea to fund the project publicly. It's funny you try to call me on "mooching" when I have absolutely nothing to do with that aspect of the Project. I do the history and help with the field studies. Maybe you should take up your problems with Jamie. He tells me you never donated anything to the Project, anyway, so why do you pretend that you've somehow been ripped off? All of the expenditures are fully declared on each funding drive the Project does, and people know exactly what they are giving to buy. Cameras, batteries, bear boxes. All the rest comes from us, the gas, the time, the labor, the many trips we do out there all during the part of the year that the area is open to access. Telling a bunch of falsehoods only makes you look petty, and repeating the same false understandings of what we're doing only demonstrates your ignorance. Clearly, you are doing this as propaganda, political bullshit trying to influence the so-called "Bigfoot Community," but you are failing. Everyone now can see that you are a jealous and little man who only yells more loudly and blows out hot air when he is wrong. Do yourself a favor. Give it a rest, and get on with your own efforts.
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don gilchrist Shared on Google+ · 4 weeks ago
Wait a minute? What do you mean you want to get to the point where you can pay a grad student to do your Bigfooting? To service game cameras? 1st of all that is a poor use of donations and 2nd. You cant call your self a researcher if you have delusions of grandure and are going to pay someone to Bigfoot for you. What a joke. Lets start a Bigfoot organization, call our selves experts and stay at home while someone does our Bigfooting for us. Couldn't contain myself on that statement guys. I am sure that isn't your end goal. Keep on squatching fellas.
Rocky Mountain Sasquatch Organization 3 weeks ago
+don gilchrist No shit

Steven Streufert 1 day ago
+don gilchrist BASED ON MISCONCEPTIONS AND LIES FROM KELLY SHAW, DON. WE AREN"T PAYING ANYBODY WITH THE FUNDING DONATIONS. You and your friend Kelly should really STFU, or at least get the facts straight. KELLY SHAW, if you weren't so dense I wouldn't have to write any of this. You're only damaging your own reputation by continuing your weeks-long screed against BLUFF CREEK PROJECT. Stop acting like you gave money to the project, because you DIDN'T. Get this through your thick skull, you troglodyte: No funds given to the Project have been spent on anything but for trail cameras and batteries, data cards, bear boxes, screws and locks. Do you know what a hypothetical statement is? Good. Now look, Jamie Wayne was speaking about the theoretical FUTURE of the Project. One idea we've had is to expand the operation beyond what we're currently doing. Part of that would be connecting with the University. Part of that, partly or fully covered by academic grants (and possibly partly by the Project) might be to add team members in the form of actual Wildlife Biologists. This would be supplemental to what we currently do. We do service the cameras some four times a year (and it takes much more than five hours), but that is not all we do. All of us are constantly outdoors, in the woods, and sometimes in Bluff Creek. I'm sorry that you're so insecure that you feel compelled to make all of these supposed problems out of sheer NOTHING, just because you feel like we have outdone you somehow. Just go do your own thing, Shaw. We really don't care. If you find Bigfoot, good for you. We'll just keep doing what we do, no matter if you cry and whine or not. Consider this: every time you open your mouth in these dumb attacks, we just win all the more. If you want to impress people, do so something impressive in your own work, and leave others to theirs when there is no valid basis for criticism whatsoever to be raised.

Rocky Mountain Sasquatch Organization 22 minutes ago
+Steven Streufert Hey weak sauce. No apologies if the strait up hard core truth hurts your feelers. I tell it like it is and since you went off on the band wagon of tossing childish names around, I will call it how I see it. You are simply a mooch. you mooch off of the Patterson/Gimlin success, you use that to mooch donations from the Bigfoot community and now you admit your game plan is to pay someone else to do your project for you. Because its hard and takes too long. Clearly a master minded mooch in progress. To each their own. If someone wants to hand over their hard earned cash to someone trying to ride the coat tails of two hard working men. And has admitted its too hard and they need to pay someone else to get some kind of glory for them. I see through your corruption Steven.

Steven Streufert 1 second ago
+Rocky Mountain Sasquatch Organization You are so full of shite it is incomprehensible. One dense MF.

Crypto2814 3 weeks ago
Hahaha!! Kelly Shaw threatening to kick people and in the nuts and smash people in the nose. Sure, sure, why didn't you try that on Steven when you allegedly visited Bigfoot Books. Too busy hiding behind the bookshelves, trying get your retard stutter under control, and rub your 2 remaining neurons together to work up the nerve to say something only you would feel is witty? What a keyboard warrior click whore. Go make up some more Bigfoot themed names for already named locations to use in your garbage videos

screamdoctor 4 days ago
5 years, 50 cameras, 500 gallons of gas, 5000 man hours, and they got no pictures of Bigfoot to show for it. They failed to seek the advice of game camera experts on the high frequency sounds that game cameras emit, and the light that game cameras emit. They failed to refer to the Australian study the showed why game cameras don't work for their Yowie. And they failed to factor in the paranormal existence of the Bigfoot. Perhaps the projects title should be revised based on the above, to The Giant Bluff Creek Bigfoot Fail Camera Project. Thank you very much.

Steven Streufert 23 hours ago
+screamdoctor We are not trying to PROVE Bigfoot exists. We are TESTING THE HYPOTHESIS. If you do not understand this distinction you have absolutely no idea of what real science and real wildlife surveying is. There are no high frequency sounds, just ask our tech guy Jamie. These cameras DO NOT emit light until they are triggered. There is no Yowie, and why should we listen to some oddball Australian cryptozoologists? You make no sense at all. All of your points are FALSE. We consider it a success to observe reality, and we're happy with all the results we get with the real wildlife out there; and if Bigfoot actually exists and lives there, we'd be happy to see one appear before our cameras. So far, though, our observations make a good case for the non-existence of Bigfoot, or at least for its absence from Bluff Creek, its most famous historical habitat.

MrKeltic1 3 weeks ago (edited)
What happened to Kelly Shaw and his criticism/comment about the Bluff Creek Project? Did he go back to "Bullsh_t Highway", ""Crock O' Sh_t Canyon" or where ever it is that he does his fantasy role-playing? It looks like he ran with his tail between his legs when the criticism was turned back on him. LOL He seems to measure his "research" achievements by the number of hits he gets on his amateurish, self-promoting videos and/or the number of gullible groupies he has. He has the worst case of confirmation bias of any of the self-proclaimed "bigfoot researchers" out there. Everything is bigfoot to the guy. If he saw a dog take a dump in a Walmart parking lot, he would make a video of the results, post it on YouTube and claim that it was bigfoot scat from the make-believe "Bigfoot Highway". His "Yellowstone tourists with ski poles being bigfoot" fiasco really showed that he lacks the objectivity, common sense and logical thinking to ever be a "researcher". He's going to have to settle for just being the ill-tempered laughing stock of bigfootery.

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